2drdan Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Hello all. Has anyone tried to mate an ex-disco 200tdi to the 4spd Range Rover box? I've thrown the towel in on my RR 3.5 v8 with Lpg, I want some space back and easier fuelling.....plus she coughed last week and leaked abit more than usual....!!? No seriously she leaks... Thanks in advance, Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2drdan Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Hello all.Has anyone tried to mate an ex-disco 200tdi to the 4spd Range Rover box? I've thrown the towel in on my RR 3.5 v8 with Lpg, I want some space back and easier fuelling.....plus she coughed last week and leaked abit more than usual....!!? No seriously she leaks... Thanks in advance, Phil. Sorted it out, can be done with adapter plate, see Int Forum for details, Ta. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall_CSK Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Sorted it out, can be done with adapter plate, see Int Forum for details, Ta. P. I hope you don't regret this Dan, nothing against the tdi but there is a world of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2drdan Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 ....."hope you don't regret this"..... Well it has taken a long time to get to this decision as i've been thinking of this conversion for some time now. While I do love the v8 and lpg has been a good way to run it I've just come to decide that i'd rather have the load space and more flexibilty with fuel supply. Many an hour spent on hols trying to find that elusive lpg supplier "somewhere" in the cuds. Also now driving to the EU is more of a proposition for the above reasons and the fact that as far as i know you can't get through the Chunnel with lpg.....!? Also my mate drives a 110 200tdi so it's not completely a leap of faith ..... The Lpg conversion was done by me with a kit and has served me well it and some other stuff will be up for grabs once the job gets underway and after i've posted 20 times..?... I hope 'They' can see i'm genuine so won't mind me selling stuff in a bit....? Next 'modification' to investigate will be Bio-diesel........... Thanks Dan/Phil ................. you choose i'll answer either.............long old story........... PS I'm in Berks.............anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 For veg oil / biodiesel you want to have a look here - Thread on international forum. JamesMorfeee is a mate and Shire member who's run all his trucks on veg/bio and usually happy to chat (when he's not rushing to finish a 10,000 word dissertation because he was playing with his hybrid, ahem). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall_CSK Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 as far as i know you can't get through the Chunnel with lpg.....!? Actually I have heard this argument before and the counter arguments. Upshot I believe from memory is that you can take an LPG vehicle through the Chunnel so long as it is proven that you can positively isolate the tank outlet, which for older installations means a manual shut off valve and the newer ones all have isolation solenoid valves which automatically close with the power off which is part of the LPGA COPII regulations for installers. I can't confirm this myself as I have never used the Chunnel, I did however speak to a French gentleman at a filling station in the Highlands in Aug 05 who told me that it wasn't a problem, he just declared it and showed how the system worked with his certification paperwork and they passed it. LPG is actually cheaper, and I am reliably informed better quality, on the continent than in the UK. Availablity is good too, even Poland in the 90's most highway outlets had it. the only anomoly I have heard of is Spain, where they are more elusive. There is a EU map on sale somewhere, and I did get a copy of a GPS mapping software with LPG stations a few years back but it'll be well out of date by now. If you don't mind the initial expense, cheaper than fitting a Tdi (sorry I couldn't resist that) then you can fit an 85 litre tank in place of the original tank with a 40 litre wing petrol tank which does not compromise your load space and will give you over 200 miles on LPG and safely 80 on petrol. Is this persuasive enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2drdan Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 newer ones all have isolation solenoid valves which automatically close with the power off which is part of the LPGA COPII regulations for installers...............LPG is actually cheaper, and I am reliably informed better quality, on the continent than in the UK. Availablity is good too, even Poland in the 90's most highway outlets had it. the only anomoly I have heard of is Spain, where they are more elusive. There is a EU map on sale somewhere, and I did get a copy of a GPS mapping software with LPG stations ....................... Niall I'like the arguments...........I had a shut off valve in my system as I kept on top of the regs as much as pos.................. Lpg being cheaper sounds good and quality definately an issue as the v8 would go from being as sweet as to a complete dog with a dodgy fuel supply, an indignity I have suffered on several occasions most often when trying to get somewhere usually for a holiday......once i had to abandon the beast and go camping in/with a fiat ....euch.....(very reliable mind, just not much grip or clearance on the lanes ..ahem...) I do have a 2006 copy of the lpg station map of GB but found it, sorry missus found it a pain in the arris as it opened to A1 size and you had to look at the back to find the address/tel no etc......since heard they made it a book hurrah...... I have resigned my self to a tdi for the RR but will be keeping the v8 for another LR project at a later date so may well go back to gas for that then.......??? Fridgefreezer Cheers I'll prob give him a shout when it's all in and running! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 The Lpg conversion was done by me with a kit and has served me well it and some other stuff will be up for grabs once the job gets underway and after i've posted 20 times..?... I hope 'They' can see i'm genuine so won't mind me selling stuff in a bit....? Who are you calling 'They' Seriously, the twenty post rule is there to stop people who try to use the forum as just free advertising - the classifieds is intended for forum members (ie. people who are already contributing to the forum). So you're in the clear just as soon as you get your twenty posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANO3528 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 You beat me to it there Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 If you don't mind the initial expense, cheaper than fitting a Tdi (sorry I couldn't resist that) then you can fit an 85 litre tank in place of the original tank with a 40 litre wing petrol tank which does not compromise your load space and will give you over 200 miles on LPG and safely 80 on petrol. Is this persuasive enough? I've get tanks in place of the original tank and i can only get 140ish miles out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I've get tanks in place of the original tank and i can only get 140ish miles out of them. I'll split the difference on that one - I've two 35l transverse tanks in place of the original petrol tank, giving me 56l actual LPG capacity (70l tank capacity). On a long run with everything in absolutely perfect order I can just about squeeze 200miles out of it, but 170 is more realistic. Not sure you could squeeze a lot more tank under there, either? Sill tanks are an option if you don't have air suspension - they compromise ground clearance though, so would be a handicap off road and would probably need some careful thought as to how to protect them if you use the truck for this. You can get a good deal more capacity this way, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2drdan Posted April 26, 2006 Author Share Posted April 26, 2006 Who are you calling 'They' No offence intended chaps wouldn't presume to call anyone a moderator over anyone else...as anewbie etc.... Am fully appreciating the LR community feel. I've only been let down once when I stopped to help a RR when (I had my S11A) he was an arogant bar attendant so I drove off!! Since then everyone I've met has been very cheery and helpful as I try to be myself!! On the subject of LPG I have/had an 80l tank across the load area behind the seat giving 64l real fuel. I had looked into getting a 100l tank but for the other reasons never bothered, leaning towards diesel as I was and have. On a long run with a decent quality gas and all the other variables behaving themselves I got 160 miles before running out ....... CHeers, Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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