BogMonster Posted May 11, 2006 Author Share Posted May 11, 2006 Can we have a spelling charter? Yes. Ignore Les. I started this thread We also have a "post 2800x1400 pixel images and you will be shot charter" in draft at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 i just hope it stays impartial, and doesnt get involved with any commercial sponsors, as it'll go down the drain if that happens.matt. This place will never get in to bed (so to speak) with any commercial sponsor, it will remain independant and if people want to post there feelings on the big boys trying to shaft the small guy then good on them. since we started last August it has gone from strength to strength. meaningless dross gets a tad boring but I just ignore the stuff of no intrest to me. the sooner the new mod/mods are found appointed the better IMHO I will nominate GBMUD for a Moderators job in the getting out there section, and as soon as this can be voted on the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 I will nominate GBMUD for a Moderators job in the getting out there section, and as soon as this can be voted on the better. An honour indeed. I would be glad to be considered... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8bertha Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Difficult to say something that hasn't already been said, but I'll add my vote/view... This forum is great! B) The "no affiliation" bit makes it a very strong and unbiased place to get good, honest info from people who have experience, and not those just trying to make a fast buck or six! I know I ain't the greatest poster in the world, but I'm always sitting here in the background reading whats happening. The thing about OT's... well, I say keep 'em. They do sometimes add humour to an otherwise monotonous day at the office (hmmmm... is it time I changed my job d'ya think??? ) But equally they do sometimes turn into personal email sessions with absolutely no meaning to anyone else. These annoy me when I do click to read them and realise I'm wasting my time. Its a difficult one to get around, but with a forum name like "The Lounge", you should kinda expect OT stuff, it conjures up images of Landy lovin folk all huddled round a nice open fire in a country pub with nice pint of ale in their hands, and having completely random conversations about vasaline and rubber gloves Surely the truely techy stuff belongs in the individual vehicle forums? Classifieds... stick with the 20 posts rule. Nuff said... back to reading, but keep up the good work! Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Difficult to say something that hasn't already been said, but I'll add my vote/view... The thing about OT's... well, I say keep 'em. They do sometimes add humour conjures up images of Landy lovin folk all huddled round a nice open fire in a country pub with nice pint of ale in their hands, and having completely random conversations about vasaline and rubber gloves Surely the truely techy stuff belongs in the individual vehicle forums? Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocKeR Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 I will nominate GBMUD for a Moderators job in the getting out there section, and as soon as this can be voted on the better. I'll second that...! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 I'll second that...! B) Spose i'd better too then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 And surely: this doesn't conform either? If I were SR (orange) I for sure would take exception to that. Lobster racing is an abhorent sport, usually ending with the winners AND losers getting boiled alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Spose i'd better too then. Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick that's blatant nepotism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick that's blatant nepotism Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wightman Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I have been watching from afar at the way this forum is going and feel there is only one solution. Events such as JY Kelly and today on the Getting Out There Rusper thread have shown the need for a change in the running and participation of this forum. Moderation has been brought into question for over-reaction and under-reaction, members have been criticised for having personal conversations, adding inane banter to ‘serious’ threads and not being able to include any Land Rover content in their own posts/threads. Replies to serious technical questions have on occasions been wholly incorrect, even dangerous posted by people who think they know what they are talking about but in fact know diddly squat! Others have posted descriptions/pictures of their recent project and been hailed as genius, innovator and expert fabricator when in fact their pride and joy is rubbish. These posts will need to be vetted by a team of experts (don’t know where we will find them, looks like a vote will be required!) Some have atrocious grammar and spelling with no attempt at sentence structure and recently even text speak! Pictures are still turning up way over size impacting on the poor (for poor read can’t afford either DSL or to live in an area where it is available). The only solution is a rulebook written to be understood by a five-year-old which clearly states what is allowed and what is not. Failure to abide by the rules would be punishable a long stand in the ‘naughty corner’ and if they persist then burning at the stake after a good dunking in the local sewer would be more than justified! I vote for rules, charges (how about imposing fines?) and plenty of burning! On a serious note the forum is NOT “owned” by the members although we have contributed financially to it’s running. The forum grew from the ashes of LRA/LRE because of the dedication of Geoff, Les and Trev , if anybody is the owner then surely these three are. In conclusion, as owners they are entitled to set the rules and appoint their own moderators to police the forum. As members we have the choice to support the forum under their leadership or go elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 dedication of Geoff, Les and Trev , if anybody is the owner then surely these three are. Gotta take issue with you there Paul. Tony Cordell has as much right to be in that list as any of the three you just mentioned. In fact, if there is to be credit dished-out, then he was the true originator of the forum as you see it right now. Geoff supplied the site, Trev (LR90) suggested the name, But Tony took the biggest risk - his reputation/name, to stabilise this website, he primarily put faith in everyone that came in here to follow and trusty eventually in us all. But this thread is all about fairness, we are all big boys/girls - there is no need for rules and regs, but when neither backs down, then anyone can say "it's in the charter - end of argument" Lets face it - if the charter is agreed by the majority and six-months down the line things change, then you all change the charter. It's the members that make the site, mods and admin are due credit, but it would be awful lonely in here if it wasn't for the members. Les (and Tony, Geoff, Trev, Mog, Deano, Drongo, Rogue Trooper, Bogmonster, Jim Attrill, Beast, Cols, Paul,John, Sharky, Ralph baby, and the ever absent Bob) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 My 2p: We only need basic rules - 20 posts to sell, no porn or foul language or racisim etc. i.e being generally considerate and decent. That's it, that's all. Any other issues should be raised to the Mods who can then consult amongst themselves and then make a decision. If the decision made doesn't satisfy the plaintif then tough. Go elsewhere. I find the inane banter sometimes hilarious, other times tedious. With some users I have got to the point where I am conditioned to skipping their posts. I haven't felt the need to complain about them, but if I did I would do it via pm to a Mod. This Forum is by far the best around in my opinion and is a credit to all the founding fathers and the members who have contributed so much in such a short time. Let's use a little bit of common sense and not get bogged down in Charters - we'll have a mission statement next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wightman Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Les, I stand corrected and offer my sincerest apologies to Tony for missing him out, sorry Tony you are a pillar of this community……. I’ll do half an hour in the naughty corner thinking about what I have done! I’m with Bish, keep it simple, the mods have done a good job so far although personally I feel they have over-reacted a couple of times but nothing serious to make me leave. I’m sure those guilty of inane banter know who they are by now and will have the decency to keep it under control. So, group hug and let’s get on with foruming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 On a serious note the forum is NOT “owned” by the members although we have contributed financially to it’s running. The forum grew from the ashes of LRA/LRE because of the dedication of Geoff, Les and Trev , if anybody is the owner then surely these three are. That might be the case if we'd chosen to make it that way, but we made a deliberate (and public) decision to build LR4x4 into an independent forum, run for and belonging to the members. When we did that we gave up ultimate control of the forum. Even though we all remain members of the team that runs LR4x4, we're there as servants of the members not masters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Charles, i take great exception to your last post- what is wrong with a bit of porn from time to time Seriously though i think one of the forum charters should be something like 1. Laissez Faire. Limits of posts are no porn, no personal attacks, as little swearing as possible (as i do enjoy the odd four letter word from time to time), no trolling and no spamming. If someone is taking the tiddle out of the forum whilst not contributing then they should be kicked after a while 2. Treat each other with a modicum of decorum and respect- i know that if i want to kick off at any time i just log onto the s**t pit that is ORRP. Lets try to ensure we all remain above that level. 3. OT which may be relevant to the whole forum is fine, but OT stuff which is form one person to another should be via PM, and that person have a light hand slapping if they post on the forum. Everyone should be forced to have autopopup of PMs enabled- no more "chris you have a pm" posts. 4. When posting use as much as the comment line (that;s what i call the second subject line) to describe what you are posting about- makes it nice and easy to decide whether or not to open a post. 5. Bit contreversial this one- those that have contributed to upkeep of forum should have some sort of acknowledgement on their signature. Also these guys should have a section just for them- in this section should go all posts which have been "deleted" by mods, and anything not suitable for open forums- this enclosed bit is then surely not libellous as you have to have paid "access". Minimum contribution £5 a year- anything more would be better. I know that lots of you won't like this, but i really feel that there is a real core of users here, and a real community (and i really really hate that word normally), and i think ackowledging this core and community would be both freindly and helpful to newbies and visitors. After all most of us now know each other off forum so why not acknowledge it? I wouldn't currently qualify Thinks that all from me. hope i don't get shot down too quickly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 we're there as servants of the members not masters EH! Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 EH! Les. Sorry, Lord Henson. I shall retire to the servants quarters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 having personal conversations, adding inane banter to ‘serious’ threads and not being able to include any Land Rover content in their own posts/threads.Some have atrocious grammar and spelling with no attempt at sentence structure and recently even text speak! Pictures are still turning up way over size impacting on the poor (for poor read can’t afford either DSL or to live in an area where it is available). Duely noted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I’m sure those guilty of inane banter know who they are by now and will have the decency to keep it under control. Also duely noted. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Take heart Mandy, many have said they like the occational OT post to lighten the mood and give sense of community Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Just posting to say I agree totally with Bish (there's a first for everything Charles! ) I think some OT threads are Ok, after all you can always skip bits you are not interested in, and I'm happy to trust the present Mods to carry on as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Duely noted Oh get over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I have ! just having a laugh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyzeus Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Inane chat i feel is fine, perhaps not when it is hijacking a thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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