extreamlandy90 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Hi, I have aLand rover Defender 110 TD5, a mate has a patrol and wants a tug of war against me, he has a LWB 4.2 straight 6 EFI patrol.....who will win?? On paper its : Defender = 90KW @ 4200rpm 300NM @ 1950rpm Patrol = 129KW @ 4000rpm 330NM @ 3200rpm IF I accept the challenge I need you to be completly and 100% confident that the Landy will win other wise I will have the mick taken all the time or worse still i'll break something!! Also check this out - - looks very even to me!!Its all in good faith though, we go off roading together and were good mates but we both always say that we each have better 4x4's but he said he wants to put it to rest that he has the best one.....and I kinda wanna say I have the best but dont want to if it'll loose!! Please help!! Regards Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yella 90 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 nissan will win, landy will proberly break something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 On road or off road? Power and torque have no real bearing on this argument it is simply down to grip which in turn will be affected by tyre choice, what surface you are on, the weight of the vehicle and possibly the weight distribution. Whether or not you have axle difflocks is also likely to have an influence as otherwise you'll only be spinning two wheels. Fit dumper tyres, get him to fit some 20in slicks, and do it in a wet grassy field Doing it on dry tarmac is a recipe for breaking halfshafts and/or CVs, maybe the odd diff and possibly other stuff. Not a very bright idea in other words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Also check this out - - looks very even to me!! The Defender only won once the Nissan had turned all it's diesel into black smoke and the engine stopped. FWIW I wholly agree with Bogmonster. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Looks like a recipe for a quick game of "catch the towball with the back of your neck". It's your truck but I'd be looking at the risk of breakage and the reward of ... umm ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Bit of an American thing to do isn't it....? As has been said above, it's more about who can put the power down to the ground here than who has more of it. Useless in a test of who has the best 4x4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extreamlandy90 Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 Yeah think I might leave it!! My truck is my daily drive so cant afford to break anything!! If we did do it it would be on stone / hard core ground!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Buy some new back windows then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I own a 4.2'ish Megasquirted ARB'd, Ashcroft'ed, Simex'ed, 100", all singing all dancing Challenge truck, which I tow around the country with my 1996 Nissan Patrol GR Turbo dielsel, autoboxed, difflocked, Patrol Y60 Trust me the Patrol will pull the chassis rails of your beloved Landrover, don't risk it. The only thing the Patrol will not pull is a women, they're pig ugly brutes but very very good at what they do, consistently and more so reliably. When you get fiddleing with the Patrol they are very similar but like a Landy on steroids, everything's huge from shafts to CV's, propshafts are humungous, tranfer box is massive, front diff holds 5 full litres of EP90, just very very solid, But is doesn't have a heart or a character like a Landy, you respect it but don't love it, but seriously it would pull America behind it if had a 50mm ball on it. For work Nissan Patrol LWD 4.2 TDi, for pleasure, without shadow of a doubt Landrover (anything), and I have quite a few Series, Disco's and Rangeys, petrol or diesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Depends on the terrain , load, tyres etc , I did this in OZ with my 110, 3.9 V8i stn wgn with twin maxi drive diffs,shafts, etc bfg mts 265/75s on dry dirt, against nissan 4.2 td stn wgn . I won , surprisingly easy, 2 reasons I reckon , I was a lot heavier, and the V8 gets the quicker torque rise if the td cant get the revs up it doesnt get the boost. Its not something I would do again , due to risk of damage (or losing) . The guy was a farmer who was always rubbishing the landy, and always bought the latest Nissan . The only down side was I lost a customer. Ozzies , are a fun bunch , but the worlds worst if they lose, I was over there when we took the ashes back, I took a lot of $h!t before the match, after you would have thought the game of cricket didnt exist . Patrol is a very good wagon, better than a cruiser IMO , they had lot better gearbox, but one real weakness was a semi floating rear axle . JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 The only thing the Patrol will not pull is a women, I am not sure that is the car Chris... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Wouldn't it be simpler to both visit the gents with a ruler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommi Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Wouldn't it be simpler to both visit the gents with a ruler :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Wouldn't it be simpler to both visit the gents with a ruler Cheaper too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I am not sure that is the car Chris... Thanks Pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yella 90 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thanks Pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petethepilot Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Wouldn't it be simpler to both visit the gents with a ruler Which reminds me of a sticker i once saw: "I´d rather be rich than well hung!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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