tweetyduck Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Anyone have a flat back or way they can get me to RCV (Doncaster Country Vehicles) in Kirk Sandal in Doncaster. Willing to pay beer tokens and it would possibly need to be week after Easter as i need to book it in and they are busy. My transmission is knackered and Fred Cam wants £75 !! for about 9 - 10 miles. I might risk a drive but can only really manage 2nd gear. The Engine runs fine in neutral so my brakes work so a tow (although i've never done it for this distance) might work. Eternal gratitude for offers or pointers to somewhere cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Has it just catastrophically failed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Audi > string > Defender....Have the engine running for steering and brakes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Why not just get a recon box, its not hard to fit and if you're off round the world you'd be wise to learn how to wield a spanner Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 as mike says, why not just tow it... Stick the transfer case into neutral to ensure the road wheels dont drive the box, and off you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNissanPrairie Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 get on the phone to ashcrofts and get a rebuilt box bought. They're easy enough to change and as per above you'll need to do far more technical stuff than this on an overland-if this is beyond you-forget the trip. Best get the genuine LR manual out/bought, chuck the Haynes in the bin and get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I'm with the other Mike - recon box from Ashcrofts, fit it yourself - do the clutch at the same time - then you know the box and clutch are good for your travels. Not a hard job really, just take your time. Other than that i'm with the other Mike and Aragorn! Edit - RustyNissanPrarie types faster than me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Unless of course you bought it from RCV and it is covered by warranty, in which case get them to spend the money fixing it! Otherwise, deffo a good learning experience for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Best get the genuine LR manual out/bought, chuck the Haynes in the bin and get on with it. if you haven't got the workshop manual & parts books just click these 2 links to get them 110 1987 onwards parts book includes 300TDi & R380 gearbox RAVE Download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 to be honest i'm sort of more bothered about whats wrong with it than getting it fixed. Guessing its the trans box or gear box would be pretty costly. If i can get the gargage to tell me for £25 what it is i can then make the descision on if i should do it myself. Not forgetting its a bit chunk of metal to remove with no equipment. I'm not worried about doing it apart from dropping it all out if its the full thing. Plus i;m not sure the wife would entertain the tow. Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 in fact while you were at it would be the ideal time to fit a decent clutch, rakeway bearing and a reinforced arm... if you post up your symptoms we may be able to help Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Neil you need to start on the Spanners at some time now would seem the ideal time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 And they're not that heavy when you split them apart I can lift the T-box in and out from underneath and I can also lift the Gearbox in and out from leaning in from the cab area by the seat box over the gearbox cross member, it maybe finnicky but you can do it all the same with out equipment!!-and as Mike all the 4's and tony(white 90) says you'll need to start learning sooner rather than later and it'll save you a shed load of cash doing it yourself too, which means you can spend it on some decent parts for the trip you've been planning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNissanPrairie Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 to be honest i'm sort of more bothered about whats wrong with it than getting it fixed. Guessing its the trans box or gear box would be pretty costly. If i can get the gargage to tell me for £25 what it is i can then make the descision on if i should do it myself. Not forgetting its a bit chunk of metal to remove with no equipment. I'm not worried about doing it apart from dropping it all out if its the full thing. Plus i;m not sure the wife would entertain the tow. Not a chance. Its easy to figure out-its 2 boxes of gears, with an inspection plate between them. Use common sense get under the truck look at things and understand how it all works. Think logically. This Lanny needs to be an extension of yourself-you need to know and understandd how every little system works and interacts with itself. you may be wanting to go places that have no support network and it may be you/your familys safety coming down to your ability to get that landrover fixed. buying equipment to do it yourself will be cheaper than the labour costs, you can either keep the equipment for use again next time or sell before your travels. Jack one wheel up, pull the 'box inspection plate off, pull the glow plugs out and remove the wire from the fuel stop solenoid. Stick a socket/ratchet on the crankshaft pulley bolt, have helper turn engine over by hand whilst in various gear combinations whilst looking in the inspection plate should help figure things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Google is your friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrfarmer Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Anyone have a flat back or way they can get me to RCV (Doncaster Country Vehicles) in Kirk Sandal in Doncaster. Willing to pay beer tokens and it would possibly need to be week after Easter as i need to book it in and they are busy. My transmission is knackered and Fred Cam wants £75 !! for about 9 - 10 miles. I might risk a drive but can only really manage 2nd gear. The Engine runs fine in neutral so my brakes work so a tow (although i've never done it for this distance) might work. Eternal gratitude for offers or pointers to somewhere cheaper. to be honest i'm sort of more bothered about whats wrong with it than getting it fixed. Guessing its the trans box or gear box would be pretty costly. If i can get the gargage to tell me for £25 what it is i can then make the descision on if i should do it myself. Not forgetting its a bit chunk of metal to remove with no equipment. I'm not worried about doing it apart from dropping it all out if its the full thing. Plus i;m not sure the wife would entertain the tow. Not a chance. to me it sounds like the gearbox has had it i wouldn't bother spending £25 for some one to tell you some thing you allready know, i was quoted £350-400 to fix my gear box were as ashcroft only wanted £325 at the time. i'd just fit one from ashcroft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&S Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 If you still want a mechanic to look at it, how about getting the mechanic to come to you? Tell them you'll pay them the £25 inspection, plus £25 for travel/beer. They might pop-in on their way home for cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 White90, obviously not following the other thread. My spanners have been flying for the last few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 My transmission is knackered and Fred Cam wants £75 !! for about 9 - 10 miles. Define knackered. need more info If engine runs, does main gearbox make a noise in any/all gears if you run transfer box in neutral? does having low range instead of high range make a difference. take the props off and try the gearboxes without the diffs. In short start with the Engine, than the clutch then the main gb, then the transferbox, then the diffs and halfshafts. Diagnosing is likely to save you the £25 you are relucant to pay after reluctantly paying £75 for a lift to garage. Echo what RNP says, if you don't have the skills to diagnose this fault with help from the forum from the comfort of your drive in the uk, I wouldn't be attempting a round the world exped with no comms or backup of any sort. Just buy a jap motor like toyota L200 pickup if you're not interested in learning. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Repost/cross post from other thread. Can't get out of H on the low ratio/diff lock leaver. Not even sure it will go into N. Plus the below. nasty noises in 3rd. Possibly they are there in 2nd and 1st. But seems to drive in 1st and reverse without concerning me where as i get into 2nd and get worried...and in 3rd i sort of think this isn't right and i'm doing damage. Not perticularly loud noises just doesn't feel right and there is certainly a grinding. Actually feels like its below but infront of the stick so could be front diff but that would be in any gear i think. I really need someone with more experience than me to drive it. I drove it 3 or 4 times since i did the swivels/bearings and for only about 5 miles on each trip,,,, i could have done something. Although it made it 30 miles on the motorway before the noises mentioned below made me stop. Thus highlighing the Alternator as i couldn't start it again once i'd stopped. (thanksfully in services) Made it about another 20 miles back before the below made me stop for good. Although the failiure happened at the same time as the alternator and i'm convinced they are not related. There was a squeeling from the engine bay at certain revs then there was the rattling sound like a penny in a washing machine. That stopped and then the loss of mechanical power. Sort of a jerk and then picked back up. This progressivle got to the stage where i didn;t want to go past third so i stopped for good. I've not drive it since other than round the block in 1,2 and even 2nd seems dodgy. Hopefully someone might have an idea. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 1st. I'm am learning. 2nd. I'm an doing stuff myself 3rd. My trip is long enough away for me to learn enough. 4th. Would people stop telling me i'm not ready. I know that and i'm not going next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Its easy to figure out-its 2 boxes of gears, with an inspection plate between them. Use common sense get under the truck look at things and understand how it all works. Think logically. This Lanny needs to be an extension of yourself-you need to know and understandd how every little system works and interacts with itself. you may be wanting to go places that have no support network and it may be you/your familys safety coming down to your ability to get that landrover fixed. buying equipment to do it yourself will be cheaper than the labour costs, you can either keep the equipment for use again next time or sell before your travels. Jack one wheel up, pull the 'box inspection plate off, pull the glow plugs out and remove the wire from the fuel stop solenoid. Stick a socket/ratchet on the crankshaft pulley bolt, have helper turn engine over by hand whilst in various gear combinations whilst looking in the inspection plate should help figure things out. sounds like a good idea. will do that first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNissanPrairie Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 not read the 'other' thread but has your alternator seized? this appears as though the engine is seizing and loosing power. also just check the handbrake isnt binding slightly-this causes the shoes to start grabbing the handbrake drum causing a drive train judder. Select neutral and give the handbrake drum a turn by hand with a back wheel jacked up (make sure front is chocked) Try selecting 4th low range and seeing if it drives around okay-4th gear is direct drive ie dosnt go throught the layshaft, it feels okay, try 4th high range but setting off down a hill once its rolling a bit, again if its okay then its not the transfer box and is the main box and probably the layshaft/bearings. It isnt in difflock is it? allbeit with the dash light not working? jack front wheel up, select neutral on main box , shove transfer lever over with ignition on, turn front wheel until centre diff locks and wheel unable to turn-light should come on dash, take out of difflock wheel should rotate again, difflock light off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Alternator is new and replaced this week. Handbreak seems fine. When handbreak off the vehicle can be pushed with little effort. Can't get into low range. This is one of the issues. Diff lock light on works if i push over the lever to the left. I can't seem to engage low or N either side Only H in Lock or no lock seems to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I can see this has potential to get in a pickle what with the same subject being covered in different threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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