oily Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Hello all. here's my first techy question We found oil leaking onto the sump area at the front, adjacent to the wading plug hole. there's not loads and the cam belt (which was replaced in july) is not contaminated, when viewd through the wading plug hole with a bright torch. Now is this the oil seal on the crankshaft that has gone? I beleive this is a pig to do! any advice would be gratfully appreciated. many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Im about to do this. It could be the camshaft seal as well I have been told. Les Henson has provided a thread here on removing the timing case and replacing both those seals here..... http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=42950 Looks like it might take a while! Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oily Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 Im about to do this. It could be the camshaft seal as well I have been told. Les Henson has provided a thread here on removing the timing case and replacing both those seals here..... http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=42950 Looks like it might take a while! Jad Thanks for the link. Iam a bit confused as ours isn't leaking like that we had a small amount around the front wade plug area, that dripped onto the front of the sump we have cleaned it all, so we can see where its coming from cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Sounds like Jon to me....... Thats a shame thats leaking since you've done the belt already. Double check it for oil contamination and replace if it is i would think. The whole thing has to come off to fix the leak. Might as well do the other seals in there whilst you are there i think. Les' thread will guide you through.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oily Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Sounds like Jon to me....... Thats a shame thats leaking since you've done the belt already. Double check it for oil contamination and replace if it is i would think. The whole thing has to come off to fix the leak. Might as well do the other seals in there whilst you are there i think. Les' thread will guide you through.. Yes, Reb Tis me will have another look today, we cleaned all the oil residue off yesterday, in the vain hope that its something else, as we are suposed to be going to wiltshire over easter exploring some "new" lanes and taking a small group over the ones we know. But hey-ho never tell the devil your plans and all that! we are also experiencing some difficulties getting the correct seals, the part No's have been superceeded and i think they gave me the dust cover seal in lieu of the outer oil seal!! I have checked the part No's to Both bearmarch and LR catalogues and thats why i think we got one of the seals wrong The plan is like you said do all the rear seals as a minimum, but probably do them all. We checked the Part No's to that website you sent us to for expander unit and springs They corroberate what the catalogues state. But my local indie insists the ones he sold are correct. Just don't want to get halfway through or even worse finish it, and find out it is leaking due to the wrong seal!! Well, I guess its fate, as we knew we had to remove the rear cover, as i wasn't happy with the taps i had to do, when the bolts/ studs snapped back in July! stud removal kit and helicoils will need ordering too now! Whats the betting more snap again this time around! cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Mine is leaking out the wading plug hole and not as the link shows as well. I have just bought the parts from the garage to fix mine and has told me i only need to remove the timing cover and not the 2nd one that les shows in his thread as the crank seal and camshaft seal come out forwards. Im guessing les does this because its leaking down the engine and not from the wading plug hole if you get what i mean??? Please correct me if I am wrong, I plan on starting this tomorrow cheers Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oily Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Mine is leaking out the wading plug hole and not as the link shows as well. I have just bought the parts from the garage to fix mine and has told me i only need to remove the timing cover and not the 2nd one that les shows in his thread as the crank seal and camshaft seal come out forwards. Im guessing les does this because its leaking down the engine and not from the wading plug hole if you get what i mean??? Please correct me if I am wrong, I plan on starting this tomorrow cheers Jad Good luck Jad, let me know how you get on. Unfortunately i will have to remove the rear cover, to get at all the rusted bolts The timing cover itself aint that hard to do, just be careful of those bits that are seized! what seals did you get? good luck mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 the timing cover has been off recently when the cam belt snapped and bent 4 push rods etc so no bolts should be seized touch wood...... I got Timing belt ETC5064 camshaft oil seal ETC4154 front cover crankshaft oil seal ERR6490 front crank shaft oil seal ERR1195 Timing Cover Gasket 200 Disco all genuine I beleive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Well its going ok so far still all in peices of course if your following les' guide so far one small thing to change. after you losen the camshaft sprocket bolt losen the crankshaft bolt again with the belt still in place otherwise its hard to get it out again so you can take the crankshaft gear off. Hardest thing so far was taking the crankshaft bolt off in the first place. breaker bar under the chassis and starter motor didnt work to start with so out with the hot spanner! that eventually got it off and when it did come it was a great feeling. And also les' bit about the drawing on a peice of cardboard and sticking the bolts through it is a bit off a life saver. I have'nt counted them but there is at least 10 and mostly different lengths well worth doing! Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 All fixed now touch wood the leak is fixed! after going back to the garage to get a crankshaft seal... they gave me 2 camshaft ones! maybe i should have checked the box with a crossed out part number and another one written on..... Have you started doing yours yet? I did finish it a couple of days ago but didnt want to jinx myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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