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Hi all,

have had problem with a vibration at about 40-45 mph that i think i have tracked to the offside swivel pins/bearings.

There is quite a bit of rock,from 12-6 o clock position.

How hard are these to change & is there anything i should be wary of before i start?

Do you think the ball will need replacing as well?

What sort of price would a garage charge for this to be done?

Cheers for any help,

Terry.

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Do you think the ball will need replacing as well?

Ball only need replacing if the seal face is rusty and pitted. It will leak otherwise, even with a new seal.

What sort of price would a garage charge for this to be done?

A lot, so much that it really does pay to do this if you have the tools? Quite a lot of stripping down, but the tech article is excellent.

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Thanks all!

After reading Les's tech guide i feel confident enough to attack the job & have ordered a full kit inc ball from Paddocks (£80.70).

Not a bad price i thought as i was quoted about £50+VAT just for the bearings,pins,seal gasket + another £70+VAT for the ball from my local specialist L/R garage + at least £80 to fit it all.

Looking forward to getting stuck in(with Les's guide on my laptop next to me) & hoping it cures my damned vibration.

Will let you know how it goes.

Cheers all!

Terry.

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Thanks all!

After reading Les's tech guide i feel confident enough to attack the job & have ordered a full kit inc ball from Paddocks (£80.70).

Not a bad price i thought as i was quoted about £50+VAT just for the bearings,pins,seal gasket + another £70+VAT for the ball from my local specialist L/R garage + at least £80 to fit it all.

Looking forward to getting stuck in(with Les's guide on my laptop next to me) & hoping it cures my damned vibration.

Will let you know how it goes.

Cheers all!

Terry.

do you want a hand with this job over the weekend ?

it'll only cost you Tea & biscuits :D

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Thanks for the offer Ralph but not sure when the kit will arrive with the double bank hol post.

Terry.

Ok, I'm around home all Easter,

Did you try LRP for the parts ?

I use a 12 point aka bi-hex ring spanner or socket for the caliper bolts

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Ok, I'm around home all Easter,

Did you try LRP for the parts ?

I use a 12 point aka bi-hex ring spanner or socket for the caliper bolts

Is that the place in Redruth? If so, no i forgot about them. The prices i was quoted were from Mid Cornwall 4x4 at Bugle.

I'll try & get the socket/spanner before the kit arrives,

Cheers,

Terry.

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Is that the place in Redruth? If so, no i forgot about them. The prices i was quoted were from Mid Cornwall 4x4 at Bugle.

I'll try & get the socket/spanner before the kit arrives,

Cheers,

Terry.

Not Redruth, LRP is on the Formal Industrial Estate at West/Treswitian A30 junction end of Camborne, I get nearly all my parts from there.great service & good prices.

with regard to the socket/spanner Halfords Professional tools are fairly well liked/good quality.

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Not Redruth, LRP is on the Formal Industrial Estate at West/Treswitian A30 junction end of Camborne, I get nearly all my parts from there.great service & good prices.

with regard to the socket/spanner Halfords Professional tools are fairly well liked/good quality.

Cheers Ralph, Will be down to Halfords in the morning.

Terry.

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Where about are you in Cornwall? Im about 10 min away from Mid Cornwall 4x4 if you need a hand with anything.

Tris

Cheers Tris,

I'm near St Stephens, not sure when i'll be doing it as due to bank hol post i probably wont get the kit untill next week.

Terry.

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Hi all!

Right!

The swivel replacement kit from Paddocks arrived on Tuesday.

I started the strip down at about 3.30 pm today(Thursday)& had it all stripped by 5pm.

Everything seemed to go a bit too easy for my liking although the hints & tips from the Tech archive probably saved me hours. Also thanks for the recomendations for the correct tools( brake caliber bolts).

Anyway, it's all stripped, (not expecting it to go back together as quick) just cleaned all muck from gasket surfaces & painted housing,mud shield etc...

A few questions!

1) Should i replace all the Bi-hex bolts? (they came out ok)

2) Do all the bolts need loctiting in?

3) Should i replace the bottom swivel pin as it was not included in the kit?

4) Should i replace the CV joint while i am in there?(i don't want the expense)how often are these changed?

5) Should i use gasket seal on all joins, even though i have new gaskets & clean surfaces?

6) Being an older Def 90, can i?, & would there be any benefit in changing to the later swivels with bearings top & bottom as aposed to the top bush of the older type swivel.

Thanks for any help,

Terry.

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If the bolts are in good condition, then yes - reuse them. Locktite all the bolts as required. If a gasket face is pitted or damaged through rust, then a thin film of gasket sealant is wise, but use it sparingly (thick globs of it are unnecessary). If the cv is in good condition, then it'll be fine - especially as it'll be in fresh lubricant. If the swivel pin is ok, then it's safe to re-use it. The top bush (railko), is arguably better than a bearing - some of them are donkeys years old and still working fine.

Les.

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If the bolts are in good condition, then yes - reuse them. Locktite all the bolts as required. If a gasket face is pitted or damaged through rust, then a thin film of gasket sealant is wise, but use it sparingly (thick globs of it are unnecessary). If the cv is in good condition, then it'll be fine - especially as it'll be in fresh lubricant. If the swivel pin is ok, then it's safe to re-use it. The top bush (railko), is arguably better than a bearing - some of them are donkeys years old and still working fine.

Les.

Cheers Les,

got it all back together this afternoon (well pleased). Decided to replace all the bi-hex bolts but unfortunately i was sold the wrong caliper bolts(diferent thread,finer) so used old ones. Replaced bottom swivel pin as the old one had a slight ridge in it.

The old top bush(railko),was in a bad way but that was to be expected as there was no oil in the housings when i bought it.

I wouldn't have attempted it without all the help from you all & i'm sure the other side will be a breeze when i come to do it.

Cheers!

Terry.

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