Steve King Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 It went bang on the M40 doing 70! Very strange as I had checked the tyre pressures the previous day and walked around and looked at each tyre before setting off early Saturday morning. It passed the MOT the previous week and I watched them from the viewing area and they jacked up each corner and gave the tyres a once over. I can only think I ran over something very sharp and pointy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoor_ian Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 No chance of a repair it would seem Front or back tyre? Glad all bar the tyre everyone was ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 You must have gone over something as you say-as the ply rating on those are 10 ply brilliant tyres in the mud-never seen one of those do that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I have had it happen to a trailer tyre (and that was a multiply very high rated tyre). It simply got too hot and delaminated like yours appear to have done. In retrospect the loading of the trailer was slightly wrong so that more than half the weight was on the rear axle (twin axle 3.5 tonne trailer) meaning I guess the tyres were working too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yostumpy Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I take it thats a michelin 4x4 OR XZL, prob 235x85/16. These are known to de-laminate. I posted this answer on another forum somewhere, and this just proves the point. An article , which I still have somewhere, by Toby Savage about a trip with him and a friend to the sahara. Toby had Mich XS and his friend had a camel Trophy 110 with XZL's. The Xzl's threw their tread on the journey, same as these have, and on their return, a stern letter was forwarded to Michelin. The reply was that they are an Off Road based tyre, and the de-lamination was due to excessive 'Road Miles' If you run XZL's beware, and check frequenly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoor_ian Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 looks like a first generation BFG mud terrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 It is (was!) an XZL and was on the N/S rear. It went with an impressive bang! It must have deflated very suddenly because there were no problems cornering previously. Although my 110 handled like a pig on 3 tyres I was able to nudge, and straighten up gradually to the hard shoulder without mishap. I've had umpteen inner tubes fail, but never delamination of the tyre itself and wasn't aware that XZLs suffered with this. I know XZLs are not the most brilliant of off road tyres when it comes to mud, but I have found them pretty good all round and quite well mannered in the wet on tarmac. As I don't have the luxury of a garage or a shed I am more or less limited to one set of tyres. Most of my driving is on tarmac, but I do a fair amount of laning and forest tracks. I don't do mud plugging. So what would you suggest as an all round tyre? Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I would have thought an all-terrain type tyre would fit the bill there. BFG AT or General Grabber AT2 are both rated highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I have a couple of bike puncture repair kits you can try That is a horrid sight. Glad everyone is ok . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I'm glad you kept it under control. A similar thing happened to a tyre on my ex wife's car. I had nothing to do with it, honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 I have a couple of bike puncture repair kits you can try I was thinking of a new tube and a bit of duct tape!!! :lol: Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I was thinking of a new tube and a bit of duct tape!!! :lol: Steve & some cable ties to stich repair the carcass so it's sort of round again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaandbiscuits Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 urg, i have those tyres i'm getting new ones in the summer, best stay off the motorways til then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yostumpy Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 its always worth checking the date code on yourtyres! i went to view some s/h rangemasters, lots of tread, slight crazing, but 2 were early 90's and 2 were '83 if I remember. I politely declined! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natas Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 How much mileage did you have on the tyre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 How much mileage did you have on the tyre? Difficult to say exactly as I bought a used set on eBay - they were immaculate though with hardly any wear at all. I have done about 10K on them. BTW just given all the other tyres the once over and they look fine. As regards the delamination - the question is what came first? The deflation or the delamination? Personally I reckon that the tyre went bang first and that the delamination happened when the tyre was running completely flat. I do however remain open to other theories.... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 Just to add a bit of info: the delamination appears to be consistent with my theory in that it starts from the massive blow and goes backwards in line with the direction of tyre rotation. Any comments or theories (particularly from tyre fitters etc) welcomed! Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychoS Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 It is (was!) an XZL and was on the N/S rear. It went with an impressive bang! It must have deflated very suddenly because there were no problems cornering previously. Although my 110 handled like a pig on 3 tyres I was able to nudge, and straighten up gradually to the hard shoulder without mishap. I've had umpteen inner tubes fail, but never delamination of the tyre itself and wasn't aware that XZLs suffered with this. I know XZLs are not the most brilliant of off road tyres when it comes to mud, but I have found them pretty good all round and quite well mannered in the wet on tarmac. As I don't have the luxury of a garage or a shed I am more or less limited to one set of tyres. Most of my driving is on tarmac, but I do a fair amount of laning and forest tracks. I don't do mud plugging. So what would you suggest as an all round tyre? Thanks Steve For mostly tarmac with some field & forest I've had good experience with Cooper Discoverer Radial LT http://www.coopertire.com/html/products/tires_lighttruck.aspx?page=discoverer_lt I'm running BFG AT at the moment for the same type of driving. In comparison they are less good on wet tarmac than the Coopers and they have a very annoying tendency to pick up stones - klak - klak - klak - klak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychoS Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 its always worth checking the date code on yourtyres! i went to view some s/h rangemasters, lots of tread, slight crazing, but 2 were early 90's and 2 were '83 if I remember. I politely declined! The cracking pattern visible in the picture in the grooves looks like what you would expect to see on a tyre that's some years old. It's perfectly sane to replace a set of tires due to age, despite them having plenty of thread left. Old tires can be quite dangerous for a number of reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I think current guidelines are 5 years old. If it was old and deflated the thing would overheat and go bang pretty quickly. Mythbusters were doing explosive blowouts and it didn't get messy until you ran deflated tyres till failure. A straight hole (from a shotgun) and the thing held together fine. 4 minutes of running on the tyre with no pressure in it and boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason110 Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I've just put a set of general grabber AT2 on my 110 heck of a difference, they came highly recommended from this very forum Jase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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