Mack Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Hi guys. Was wondering how to prepare the one shot grease for the swivels. Anyone played doing proper mixtures? I guess it is EP90+how much moly grease? thanks M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco_al Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 the one shot comes in a tube prefilled with enough grey goo to fill one hub, part number stc3435 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 just warm the sachet in hot water for a while before filling, will help it flow into the swivel easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 just warm the sachet in hot water for a while before filling, will help it flow into the swivel easier. The problem is I do not have access to the STC3435 Sachet. So I was thinking to mix some EP oil and moly-grease. But, how thick the muck should be? cheers M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 That wont really work. Swivel Oneshot is Thixotropic, which means it becomes liquid when agitated, and becomes solid again when left to stand. A mixture of EP and grease wouldnt do that. Just fill it with EP90 or 75w90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 The problem is I do not have access to the STC3435 Sachet. So I was thinking to mix some EP oil and moly-grease. But, how thick the muck should be? cheers M in that case stay with the oil as mentioned above the grease Spec in the Defender workshop manual is Texaco EP00, you maybe able to source .70 litre [.35 litres for each swivel] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 The MS3 grease (molybdenium disulphide) you buy in tubs from a local motor factors, is a thicker and similar version of one-shot grease. MS3 is a cv grease - the same as one shot, and thins to some extent when warm, but not as much as the sachets of One Shot that people usually use. EP80/90 will mix with it quite readily, and the two will not seperate at a later date. I would take a guess that a 25% dilution of EP80/90 to MS3 would give you a suitable copy of one shot. Thixotropic has nothing to do with the constituant components of the grease - merely it's reaction in a working environment - not just the temperature of it. Thixotropy is the property of certain gels or fluids that are thick (viscous) under normal conditions, but flow (become thin, less viscous) over time when shaken, agitated, or otherwise stressed. ... Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 And clearly landrover specified a thixotropic grease for a reason, which wont be met if you bodge it up with some mix of random products. I dont see the point of mixing it anyway. My swivels will be getting EP75w90 along with the transfer case and axles, and i see no real benefits to using grease, and there are some benefits to using oil, such as it being easier to top up, easier to drain out for servicing and will make leakey swivel seals quite obvious. Grease is absolutely horrid to clean out, and can mask swivel seals in such a way that they can draw in water without much in the way of signs of leakage, and if/when it does leak, its all a bit of a guess as to how much you need to readd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 And clearly landrover specified a thixotropic grease for a reason, which wont be met if you bodge it up with some mix of random products. Random? how is mixing the recommended oil with the recommended grease? And how does it become a bodge? On a Land Rover, there are many alterations/modifications that may or may not be interpreted as a bodge - what a remarkably idiotic reply. Oil was used and then One Shot, so either or both will obviously do the job. As to it masking leaks/water getting in - that's a different matter entirely. Nothing in the original post about leaks is there? - nope. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iomlt Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Just fill it with EP90 or 75w90. Agree totally. if it leaks then you now you have seal problems and should be corrected. if oil can get out water can get in! I know alot of people that use one shot because it leaks if they use ep90...... basically they can not be arsed to fix the real issue. But if there is no leak, then why not just you ep90? far eaiser to get in as you dont have the sachet anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Mine is an has been for years exactly as Les describes and no bearings have needed replacing. Not some Bodge as inferred above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 I´ll see how it goes with 85W/140 EP oil. I assume the Mo2S is used to coat the CV and bearings when the whole stuff is cold. thank you people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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