Mr Bean Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Have now modified plan Why does the Freelander fraternity get left out? To be honest us hippo drivers are the black sheep of the Land Rover family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Why does the Freelander fraternity get left out? To be honest us hippo drivers are the black sheep of the Land Rover family. Mr Bean.... This is a fledgling schematic.. We will be discussing this ongoing but Nic has given us some real food for thought.. I can't promise the Freelanders will make it into the plot tho ! Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 I can't promise the Freelanders will make it into the plot tho ! Neil I'm going to bed for a cry now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 It's 'cos freelanders don't go wrong As much. The schematic thingy looks good though, gets my vote. You do realise the "history" part should just point back to the model above each time, with Series at the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangebean Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Still sitting in the corner, Rest my case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Still sitting in the corner, Rest my case... You submitted your post at 11.38pm on a Saturday night and it has been approved by me at 11.02 on Sunday morning. If you don't like the long standing procedures we have to protect our forum that's your problem. Sitting on the side and bitching is unlikely to further your acceptance and ability to meet like minded people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I can't see what the problem is, a short delay in your posts showing up doesn't make you a social pariah Bitching like a spoilt kid does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedef90 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 This wire diag schematic would make it easier for us newbies to wend our way through this forum, without the constant thought of being ridiculed. I like the idea of it. Whens it being implemented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I can't see what the problem is, a short delay in your posts showing up doesn't make you a social pariah Bitching like a spoilt kid does. The thing about new users moaning about being on moderator approval is that it's a bit like digging a camel in the butt with a drawing pin and then being booted in the nostrils. Smart people either don't do it at all or figure out it's a dumb idea after the first boot, but there's always a handful that end up looking a bit bruised wondering if they can get another dig in without a reaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Have now modified plan That's excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Link Threads, like this linked one, in the tech archive where the pictures are no longer hosted are a real shame. It happens quite a bit on threads where the forum doesn't host the pictures - and I think hugely devalues the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 What would help is the tech archive is actually compiled PDF's instead of just saving a copy of the forum topic. I know this would take time from someone but at least they would be good forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Thats a great idea. I'd be happy to take a few of the instruction threads and turn them into step-by-step PDFs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmt Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 This would be excellent and would help those (me) that rintd them out for outdoor reference. There must be an html > pdf converter somewhere that would make it a less manual process What would help is the tech archive is actually compiled PDF's instead of just saving a copy of the forum topic. I know this would take time from someone but at least they would be good forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 For full effect you could compile them into a book and sell it for forum funds, a-la the other thread going on on the subject at the moment. Kind of like the ultimate haynes manual, minus some of the lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoor_ian Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 ^^^^ Now that is a hell of a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roverbo Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Hmmm...maybe, but why make another workshop manual, when you have Haynes and RAVE ? The good thing about a forum is the option of getting a second view at your problem - get the exhaust on, removing the hub etc. An answer to the problems that always comes (at least for me ) when you try to do something on your vehicle... The book can - in my opinion - never be replaced by the internet, and a helpfull forum like this can never be replaced by even the thickest, most detailled manual. It´s a lifeline, that gives you the nerve to do the four- and five-spanner jobs in the manual... /Bo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Because the guides on here are miles better than Haynes and Rave! And, of course, it wouldn't be to replace the forum - but the preservation of the integrity of the tech archive and the availability of it as a hard copy (that helped the forum) is a brilliant idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 the guides on here are far far superior to Haynes, a few things I've gone to look at such as removing certain items... haynes: 'remove X'. a completely useless piece of non-information. Admittedly I haven't looked at Rave in great detail, so not idea how that compares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco_al Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 i like the pdf idea, at least then it really would be "reassembly is a reversal of removal" maybe compile them as pdf's and then put them onto cd for a minimal charge to cover costs? rather than using up space by hosting them, and that way it will be easier for those "in the field" who may not have internet access when they need it most, and can just pop the cd in (or copy the relevant ones to hard drive) maybe do a couple of versions, defender, disco, series and range rover specific ones....or just and all in one for those of us who like to have everything to hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 i like the pdf idea... ....maybe do a couple of versions, defender, disco, series and range rover specific ones....or just and all in one for those of us who like to have everything to hand... What about the Freelander? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The Free what sorry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2hse Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 i like the pdf idea, at least then it really would be "reassembly is a reversal of removal" maybe compile them as pdf's and then put them onto cd for a minimal charge to cover costs? rather than using up space by hosting them, and that way it will be easier for those "in the field" who may not have internet access when they need it most, and can just pop the cd in (or copy the relevant ones to hard drive) maybe do a couple of versions, defender, disco, series and range rover specific ones....or just and all in one for those of us who like to have everything to hand... I would be in for that, even for some cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to "publish" (be it in PDF or book form, I'd prefer PDF to be honest) some additions to the RAVE or Haynes manuals. I've seen it plenty of times in the RAVE, pulling an example out of my arse of a typical sentence: Remove side panel.There's no mention of where it's attached, what may be attached to it, etc. To elaborate on things like this would be excellent, and a great help to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicTheOrange90 Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 Whilst the final type of file type is important (ieP PDF/htm etc) IMHO its important that anyone coming into the area for the first time irrespective of how long the guides have been in place gets to see the information presented in a 'logical' format (ie menu)... So Im a new user to the forum and Im looking for basic information on buying a Land Rover (for example a Freelander ) so I go to the menu, find Freelander (other models also available), then using the easy navigation menus go to the wikki/PDF/HTM pages about what to look for etc when buying such a vehicle. I might also be able to see standard equipment for model/year etc. Alternatively a non Freelander owner (I dunno say a Defender) who wants to fit a winch or modify the suspension can see whatoptions are and the impact of doing so to the steering/geometry etc. Menus are key, file format is not so important, Wiki software is a good start, PDFs are easy to produce, but are a bit bloaty (like me) and take a while to download and might not even be searchable in some instances.. Sorry if linky to Freelander did not produce correct page link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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