Finn Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Hi Guys, does anyone of you know how I can see the difference between an 88 and a 109 rear PTO unit? Probably by measuring the length of the shaft..( ? ). Many thanks, Finn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 One propshaft is 20" longer than the other I'd guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean f Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I suspect it is more than 20" longer on the propshaft as the 109 has a longer rear overhang as well. Other than propshaft lenght I can't see why there would be any difference. If you are looking to buy one get what every is available / best condition and then get a propshaft made to the right lenght, lot of people who will do that for you for reasonable money. PTO unit where never exactly common and I expect they are getting quite rare and expensive now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 109 had an intermediate bearing and the shaft was actually 2 shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 I am trying to find some photos of these shafts, as I have some shafts here (actually in Germany, I am currently in Amsterdam, so I cannot take a picture of them) which I do not know where they are from. Cheers, Finn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2hse Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Not hard to fabricate. Make certain the lining up is as straight as possible though. Two shafts: PTO -> UJ ---> greasable telescopic join to UJ -> pillow block ---> pillow block -> UJ to output ---> == shafts. 2 x High tensile steel shafts, 1". 2 x Forged steel UJs if possible (pref. not cast) to fit. The third UJ should be attached to the telescopic join. 2 x Greasable pillow block bearings to fit. 1 x Greasable telescopic join to fit. This is important to absorb movement from the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 ok, thanks.. but has anyone got any pictures? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I would put money on the shafts using standard LR flanges, which means you can make them up to suit by cutting & joining one or more LR props. Do you just need this to work, or are you doing a full nut-and-bolt restoration job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2hse Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I would put money on the shafts using standard LR flanges, which means you can make them up to suit by cutting & joining one or more LR props. Do you just need this to work, or are you doing a full nut-and-bolt restoration job? You could do that too. Me, I'm too lazy and would prefer to get the steel rod lathed to fit the uni's and a key way cut in to suit and she's all nice and balanced to begin with. That way you can use the smaller uni's too. But yes, how much force will be exerted is an important factor but I would think the PTO would be limited in how much it can take(?). Thanks for reminding me. I forgot one *very* important piece. The final UJ before output needs a shear pin of 1/4" copper rod. Have some others handy too, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 No, it's a full restauration.. Cheers, Finn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2hse Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 In that case, whose PTO is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 It's mine.. but I am currently in Amsterdam. The pto at my girfriends place in Germany.. so I cannot take any pictures. Cheers, Finn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2hse Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 It's mine.. but I am currently in Amsterdam. The pto at my girfriends place in Germany.. so I cannot take any pictures. Cheers, Finn no no no Who *made* it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I am trying to find some photos of these shafts, as I have some shafts here (actually in Germany, I am currently in Amsterdam, so I cannot take a picture of them) which I do not know where they are from. Cheers, Finn Best I can do is the pictures from the Parts Manual on the LHP21 CD for the 2A. Note that in this context, Front means the front half of the split shaft to the rear PTO. Front does not refer to the front of the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 Thanks for these images! I cannot check for the manufacturers name at this moment because I am still in Amsterdam. It looks different from this PTO. Like this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Land-Rover-Landrover-Defender-Series-Rear-PTO-/260669758224?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cb120db10 But the shaft looks like the one on Davids first picture.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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