mudmuncher Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hi all I brought a set of OME shocks brand new about 5 months ago they have covered 2000 miles road use and no off road use !!! The eye has just snapped clean off one of the rear ones whilst going round a corner !!!!! I have heard of pro comps doing this but ome ?? I brought ome as I thought they were the best and it was worth paying out for them !!!! Please tell me am I just unlucky or has this happened to others Many thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete300tdi90 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 where did you get them from? Gywn makes them and when ever i have spoken to him he seems like a spot on chap, try talking to him abut the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmuncher Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hi I got them from Gywn Lewis I will call him tuesady hopefully he will replace it Would be good to know if anyone else has heard of this happening to ome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy andy. Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Bu@@er just about to buy some of these from Gwyn. Please keep us/me informed of what goes on. Are they standard height ones or plus sizes?? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmuncher Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 I will do Andy They are +2 inch Totally gutted as they have hardy done any work at all !! Almost wished I brought terrafirmma now at half the price !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I broke mine like that when I put the dished washer on the wrong way round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 What Pete said. Unless you have a very rare defective OME product, my money is also on the dished washer being on the wrong way round. If it is flat side in, when you tighten the nut up fully, the washer stops the eye of the shock from being able to rotate from side to side as the axle articulates. Result is bending stresses in the rod to eye weld that cause the weld to fail. To be honest, it is the only way your shock could have failed in such a short period of road work unless it was really badly made and I would be surprised if that would have escaped OME's quality control.... but there is always a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I was about to post about the washer - and mention that over-tightening them can restrict the bush moving as it should and thus put stress on the shock body. I have OME's and they have been excellent and took a lot of stick to boot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete300tdi90 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 i went terrafirma as they ar half the price. heard nothing but good stuff about OME (apart from this) and gywns suspension set up is best i have ever seen. but they do cost lots of pennies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I have OME kit on my heavy 110, never had a damper or spring break, in over 12 years of use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmuncher Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hi guys Thinking about the washer problem, the washer is like the shape of a dish I am guessing the Inside of the dish fits against the bush so in theory the outside of the washer as you look at it is smooth Hopefully I have explained it as good as possible Is that correct chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I'm not sure of a side being differentiated from another by being smooth? But re-read bishbosh's post, he describes it well. The curved / domed side of the washer faces inwards. So it doesn't press on the outer edge of the shock eye. This is so it holds the shock against the mounting pin, but allows the bush to work and the shock to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Best I can find at the moment: Can you see the outer face of the washer is flat. The inner is curved / domed and doesn't touch the outer ring of the shock 'eye'...... That means the shock can twist a little in all directions. Without that twist it will snap eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmuncher Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 ok guys Many thanks for the description and pictures i will check in the morning and see what way round they are Cheers chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Over the years I have given OME shocks plenty of abuse on different conditions from Uk challenging to touring Aus. And I have never had a problem But the do have a 3 year garentee and come with a service book and maneul. Which I have for both my 90 and 110. I fitted the one son my 110 but ARB fitted the ones on the 90 Pretty rare to have problem with them but are a good company and stand by their stuff Ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 where did you get them from? Gywn makes them and when ever i have spoken to him he seems like a spot on chap, try talking to him abut the problem! I think the word you are looking for is sells them as ARB make them and sell them world wide Gywn is just a stockest same as Devon 4x4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAttrill Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 OME shocks have a shocking history of early failures (excuse the pun). They seem to last 3 months or so. Ironman shocks (also from OZ) never seem to fail. I reckon the QA on OME is at fault. They seem to be the most overrated and overpriced things you can fit to your LR. Maybe the Toymota ones are made better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 OME shocks have a shocking history of early failures (excuse the pun). They seem to last 3 months or so. Ironman shocks (also from OZ) never seem to fail. I reckon the QA on OME is at fault. They seem to be the most overrated and overpriced things you can fit to your LR. Maybe the Toymota ones are made better. Mm totally disagree with that OME are good shocks. Their not the best but they are not the worse either. They are in fact well priced for what you get.you can get fox or Olins or Rieger if you want better but at a grand or more a corner make OME look cheap After all they check them for use and height after 300 miles and a yearly check if you want for free of charge and a three year warranty I had scrap iron ones once and they were totally carp and had to replace 4 in the space of 6 months Since then I have used OME and not broken one and I have drive in winch challenge and on cars that I have driven around Australia on corrugated roads with no problems Ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4mud Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 hi chap dont get a replacmeant rear get 2 front ones and then bye off ebay rear challenge shock mounts i had the same truble but not anymore richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirstybeast Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Sadly I have to agree with Jim's comments, they do seem overated and I have seen 110 rear ones fail at the top ring many a time, could be that the shocks arnt the correct ones for the springs though (not long enough)as that will also cause the problem described above. Thirsty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmuncher Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Hi guys Just wanted to let you know the outcome of the broken shock and ask another question I called gwyn and the shock washer was fitted correctly !!! He has replace the shock foc but possibly highlight 2 reasons why this happen 1 I did the nut up to tight and the shock couldn't move around causing it to break 2 I have -2 inch shock mounts which he said shouldn't be used on +2 inch shocks !!! Reason behind this is the shocks now travel 2 inch lower so in theory the shock can bottom out before the axle touches the bump stop What's your opinions on this guys ? I like the shock dropper and want to carry on running them but if it's going to damage the shocks then I wlll remove them Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymorris Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Chris I would do as Gwyn suggests if I were you ,straight away before you break another shocker I have one of his suspension kits and haven't had any problems Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Interesting what Jim says; especially as he is without doubt a man with experience. Yet he is one of the very few people to ever have anything bad to day about OME. OME are probably tested and matched better than any other aftermarket suspension in the world. However they are designed to match certain configurations. Many years ago here in the UK Iron Shocks recieved a market pasting becuase 'they all broke'. Actually it was because the UK distributor wasn't careful about who did what with them and a superb shock got the usual 'it's no good' rumours spread so far that it's sales have never recovered in the UK market. I've heard it about most makes - Rancho, Pro-comp etc etc I agree with Jim about the cost though. Okay one has to allow for container frieght costs - but you can get a lot of shocks on one container. The UK importer (Arbil) could help the retailers by looking at pricing. Slightly less for such a good shock could make a big difference... I finally managed to afford a set of OME's for the rear of my 110 - okay they are plus 5" pin/pin; but the difference in ride quality above the Terrafirms previously fitted is amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks90 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 2 I have -2 inch shock mounts which he said shouldn't be used on +2 inch shocks !!! Reason behind this is the shocks now travel 2 inch lower so in theory the shock can bottom out before the axle touches the bump stop What's your opinions on this guys ? I like the shock dropper and want to carry on running them but if it's going to damage the shocks then I wlll remove them Cheers Chris you will continue to go through shocks with this set up and you definitely WILL be bottoming out the shock. I think Gwyn has been extremely kind giving you a FOC replacement after finding this out, as this is clearly user fitment error (sorry). With +2" shocks and standard bumptops, you will almost bottom out the shock using standard shock mounts [different brands may have different length +2, so this may vary upon brand]. Fitting shock droppers absolutely will result in bottoming out of the shock. You have 2 choices really, limit up travel by fitting extended bumpstops or put standard shock mounts on. Any reason you want to keep the dropper? Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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