Adam001 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Hi, Recently been having problems on my 110 with TD5 rear brakes, They have a squeal under braking that could wake the dead! After a bit of reading on here I found that I should have anti-squeal shims fitted behind the pads. Does anyone have the part number for this? Is it this one... http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/RANGE_ROVER_1986-1994/Brakes/Brake_pad_shim_-_RH_-_rear_axle.html and http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/RANGE_ROVER_1986-1994/Brakes/Brake_pad_shim_-_LH_-_rear_axle.html A quick google shows them as looking like the right shape Should there be one on every pad? i.e. 2x RH ones and 2X left hand ones Tried hunting on the net but haven't found any reference to a part no associated with a Defender Any help would be fantastic Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYCOPPER Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 i had same problem, i went to main dealer for advice and they were brill, got axle set of pads with springs and it cured it instantly. tbh, i would always buy genuine parts for brakes and they are not that expensive. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Mine (110 rear) squeaked badly, a new set of Mintex pads cured it. Didn't even need to grease the back of the pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 anti squeal shims are usually 1 behind each pad, coat the rear of the pad metal plate with a smear of copaslip grease too. can't find any shims for the rear calipers in microcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 I should have mentioned I have brand new genuine discs and new mintex pads, with new fitting kit and copper slip But still squeals Are the ones in that link correct then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 http://www.lrseries....=591628&page=1 picture of 591628 & http://www.lrseries....=591629&page=1 591629 states forDiscovery & RRC. NOT Defender or 90 or 110. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 That's the same thing I looked at aswell, but for the life of me I can't find anything related to a defender that does the same job, but I know it exists as my mates has them fitted :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 But has he got a 90 or 110 ? if a 110 thats been converted from rear drum brakes, he might be using Discovery or RRC calipers. AFAIK there are no anti squeal shims for Defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 They are on a TD5 110, so same set-up as mine. With full LR history Not sure what's going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 maybe the shims only come with genuine LR rear pads, but they are not listed as seperate parts in microcat parts info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Not very likely, but I did hear that sometimes mixing manufacturers of pads/discs can cause squealing? All I can report for sure is that I have Mintex pads and discs on all four corners of both Defenders without any squealing and without any grease. Have you tried some "enthusiastic braking" to bed the pads in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 yeah tried about everything really, full strip down, regrease, bedding in procedure, light braking, heavy braking...noise just gets worse! Thinking of scrapping the pads, getting some EBC greenstuffs and putting some 3M Adhesive shims on the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P H Services Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I had the same problem on a mates 110 and my own the shims only come with genuine pads and are not avalible as a seperate item !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Ah right, guess that explains that then. Where do people buy their genuine parts these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYCOPPER Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 when i replaced mine they came with springs and shims, when i asked for advice at my main dealer i found that whoever had fitted mine before left out the shims AND anti rattle springs, bought axle set of pads and fitted them and all sorted now, i was after the anti rattle springs as that was most obvious as a visual inspection of what was missing but they only come as part of the kit and as pads already fitted were non genuine i swapped them over and all is quiet now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 Good news, I found some shims amongst some spares (as you do!) They have a half moon shape cut out of the shim in line with the piston, Which way round should I put them? They look similar to this, but shaped the same as the 110 rear pads... Should the half moon be on the trailing edge or leading edge of the pads? Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 Problem solved... http://www.xtremelandy.co.uk/Manuals%20folder/Land_Rover_Defender_Workshop_Manual_1999_and_2002_MY.pdf That link shows which way round they should be fitted Now to see if it works! Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Squeak free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Squeak free that's good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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