Pastycrimper Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hi All, My 1997 110 Defender had a replacement 300tdi engine from Turners Engineering after about 50,000miles (It was originally owned by Northern Electricity who blew the original engine up). Given that many parts are engine number related rather than VIN related I figured I'd best take note of my engine number. I *thought* from wikipedia that 300tdi numbers began 16L or 23L however mine is 21LU2613R. Is the 21L a different "type" of 300tdi engine????? Is there any useful info that can be learned from this number much like reference sites for VIN numbers? Cheers Ziggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I believe the 21L's were from discoveries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 This site is handy for the 300TDI info: http://www.landroverexpedition.com/engines/300tdi/ 21L (EDC) Discovery Guess it won't matter where it came from in all honesty, just relating to the block, which could now well have Defender bits bolted to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 extracted from my Microcat LR parts info -- 300Tdi engine prefix 16L 1995 model year Defender 17L Discovery &/or RRC EDC Manual 18L ----------------------------- EDC Manual/DeToxed 19L ----------------------------- EDC Auto 20L ----------------------------- EDC Auto DeToxed 21L ----------------------------- EGR Manual 22L------------------------------- EGR Auto 23L Defender EGR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastycrimper Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 Cheers! Exactly what I was after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 But if as you say it was a replacement engine from turners all the ancillaries will be off the original engine (which was probably a 16L) so you will have a bit of both. For example despite 21L being an EDC engine which would have an EDC injection pump you will most likely have a mechanical injection pump. So a bit of thought will still need to be applied when ordering parts and you can't blindly trust the engine numbering. Sorry if that was already obvious to you and I am teaching you to suck eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 virtually no difference in the actual engines parts just the EDC/EGR parts they were fitted with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 virtually no difference in the actual engines parts just the EDC/EGR parts they were fitted with. That's pretty much what I was trying to say, but not very successfully, and with far too many words! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastycrimper Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 Thanks! I had been thinking about what may be 16L from the original. The EGR has been blanked off so I needn't worry about parts for that. Its certainly not EDC - I'm guesssing its the original injector pump. I can see disconnected connectors that must have been part of the EGR (one near the injector pump and one close to where the EGR valve would have been) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 just tape their terminals & secure so they can't get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastycrimper Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 Just an add on question. OK the 21L prefix gives me the the vehicle type that engine was originally fitted. Is there any way from the rest of the serial number to work out the year/age of the engine. I.e I have a rebuilt 21L discovery from Turners in mine, but from what year Discovery did this engine come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 AFAIK there is no way to tell engine month/year of build from the engine serial number, but a enquiry with LR's tech archive or through a good LR main dealer might come up with a answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastycrimper Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 Cheers Ralph.....I'm gonna investigate, See if LR will detail all of my numbers. Do you think they'd obligue if I gave them my special vehicles # and ask what that entailed? Why am I asking you?????? (Probably because I'll get more sensible answers answers from you) Pastys n Lafrowda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 you'll probably get transferred to the Special Vehicles Dept archives, at least the should know what was originally fitted. might be worth talking to the archive person at the Gaydon heritage museum too. http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/exhibitions/archive-services/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAttrill Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 extracted from my Microcat LR parts info -- 300Tdi engine prefix 16L 1995 model year Defender 17L Discovery &/or RRC EDC Manual 18L ----------------------------- EDC Manual/DeToxed 19L ----------------------------- EDC Auto 20L ----------------------------- EDC Auto DeToxed 21L ----------------------------- EGR Manual 22L------------------------------- EGR Auto 23L Defender EGR. My 1995 Defender was made in South Africa (with imported components of course) and has a 21L prefix and no EGR. I reckon they just selected any old engines for export. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastycrimper Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 My 1995 Defender was made in South Africa (with imported components of course) and has a 21L prefix and no EGR. I reckon they just selected any old engines for export. I reckon your probably right.......I guess aside form EDC and EGR both of which are mainly external to the main engine are the only differnces........there all 300tdis I guess at the end of the day. Although this is probably where one of the firum legends jumps in a points out that there were mods/improvements in the block or something or other. Did you have the 95 from new and are certain its the original engine???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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