hissing sid Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Hi, I"m considering fitting a 40mm lift kit to my Freelander. Do these kits have a detrimental affect on the handling, steering etc when driven quickly on the road? I would fit 17" Alloys if I could afford them, but fitting these would surely affect top speed and economy? or would they? Why do I want a Lift Kit? because I like the way the new Freelanders are much higher off the ground giving better ground clearance and forward vision. Any advice would be welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 lift kits WILL make you cornering abilities worse, it depends on what wheels your currently have, smaller= better acceleration, bigger= higher top speed, if there the same width and tread, it wont affect the mpg. on independent suspension, doesn't lift kits affect the tyre camber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 A larger rolling radius wheel will affect the mpg, especially if an auto, as you end up laboring the engine for longer when accelerating, requiring more throttle for the a same response, autos will have the gear changes in the wrong place to, which will have an effect on the economy and driving experience. If cruising about you probably won't notice to much, but in town it can be a real pain.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Surely the size of alloys makes NO DIFFERENCE, it's the size of tyre you then fit to them that matters... 40mm lift will detrimentally affect handling/stability and more than likely your MPG and the lifespan of your driveshafts because of the increased working angle, everything is a trade-off, not saying it's a bad idea, just that there's a penalty for every modification. Oh and you'll need to tell the insurance co as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Surely the size of alloys makes NO DIFFERENCE, it's the size of tyre you then fit to them that matters... 40mm lift will detrimentally affect handling/stability and more than likely your MPG as brownie said, i uses a bit more grunt to get it rolling and how will a lift kit affect MPG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Surely the size of alloys makes NO DIFFERENCE, it's the size of tyre you then fit to them that matters... Agreed, I said rolling radius of wheel, a wheel = tyre + rim in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I was answering this: I would fit 17" Alloys if I could afford them, but fitting these would surely affect top speed and economy? or would they? And being lifted 40mm will affect MPG because the car is higher up = less aerodynamic (why most cars are low down & have lots of trim underneath to smooth the airflow). It'll be worse if you do a lot of motorway driving. How much it will really affect things I don't know, could be 1%, could be 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I was answering this: And being lifted 40mm will affect MPG because the car is higher up = less aerodynamic (why most cars are low down & have lots of trim underneath to smooth the airflow). It'll be worse if you do a lot of motorway driving. How much it will really affect things I don't know, could be 1%, could be 10%. example... land rover-12inch ground clearance= 25-33mpg Ferrari's-2inch ground clearance=<10mpg higher ground clearance= better mpg but being serious, i dont believe what you said. i think its just a theory. sorry ff, so yes alloys compared to steels should increase MPG due to lower weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sro Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 example... land rover-12inch ground clearance= 25-33mpg Ferrari's-2inch ground clearance=<10mpg higher ground clearance= better mpg but being serious, i dont believe what you said. i think its just a theory. This is pretty well researched/proven so I'm surprised you doubt it. The whole reason a ferrari is so close to the ground is to reduce drag at high speeds. It's that drag that causes lower MPG (all else being equal). http://www.ijest.info/docs/IJEST10-02-07-40.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 This is pretty well researched/proven so I'm surprised you doubt it. The whole reason a ferrari is so close to the ground is to reduce drag at high speeds. It's that drag that causes lower MPG (all else being equal). http://www.ijest.inf...10-02-07-40.pdf oh yeah! well cheers for that, i didnt no that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 See, I don't make everything up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 in a similar way to a suspeension lift, would a steering guard improve MPG slightly as its more pushing the air out of the way of hitting beam axles etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 in a similar way to a suspeension lift, would a steering guard improve MPG slightly as its more pushing the air out of the way of hitting beam axles etc? I guess it might make a difference... but a difference so slight it is negated by the extra weight of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 and the cost of making/buying one in the 1ST place, my other question didn't get answered, on independent suspension, doesn't lift kits affect the tyre camber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissing sid Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 I"m really glad I started this forum because I"ve learnt things I knew nothing about. So what your really saying is: Don"t fit a Lift Kit for road use? If that"s the case: Has anyone any 16" or 17" Alloys For Sale that will fit my Freelander TD4 S which has the bigger brake calipers. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 So what your really saying is: Don"t fit a Lift Kit for road use? Yep, unless there's some really bad speed-bumps round your way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I remember the ebay ad for that something about building it to get away from the mrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Yep, unless there's some really bad speed-bumps round your way! thats a body lift, not suspension lift!!...... who's idiot creation is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 and the cost of making/buying one in the 1ST place, my other question didn't get answered, on independent suspension, doesn't lift kits affect the tyre camber? yes on a single wishbone, no on a double wishbone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallonvt Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have fitted a 40mm lift kit to my freebie, and have had the camber reset. Next year (its all about money) I intend to get stiffer antiroll bars fitted and upgrade the suspension, does any one have experience if doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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