discomikey Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 apparently they developed a diesel v8 with a turbo at around 150bhp, based on the rover 3.5 block. i found it on wikipedia. its called project iceberg, and they gave up on the idea because they couldnt get the cooling right and the heads didnt agree with it or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 It would have been awesome if it worked, but it didn't, so it wasn't.... There's one on show in the Gaydon museum IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2hse Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Big capacity for a little alloy block for a diesel. Can see why they had problems with cooling, probably kept busting heads too I should imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Interesting, bits from project iceberg ended up in the 4.2 petrol v8 http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/en/project-iceberg so it didn't die completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Just found this pic of the engine at Gaydon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 yummy. and that would have actually fitted into my engine bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
task Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I've seen one of these in the flesh, I think it may have been in France of all places, in a car museum. It was many years ago now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g&t Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If they had put the engine into production they may have run into the same problems that GM found when they modified petrol V8's into diesel units back in the 'seventies & those were iron lumps not alloy, which I would have thought even less durable. Mind you, the russkies built alloy diesels in the last war - V12's in the T34 tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I seem to remember someone, possibly Steve Lund, selling blocks or cranks which were supposedly left over from the Iceberg project. The Jaguar six was developed to be a diesel or petrol too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 developed alongside Perkins Diesel IIRC, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19MART82 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 looks like they've been trying to create the derv v8 for a while now,the figures for the new rr v8 diesel are impressive... quote "The new engine uses sequential turbocharging to generate 309bhp (a 15 per cent boost on the outgoing engine) and 516lb ft of torque. Claimed fuel economy is now 30.1mpg on the Combined cycle (an 18.5 per cent improvement), and CO2 output sits at 253g/km (down 14 per cent from the old model's 294g/km). The performance increase means that the Range Rover now accelerates from 0-62mph in 7.5 seconds. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/land-rover/7837428/New-V8-diesel-for-2011-Range-Rover.html makes you wonder where landrover would be now had they been succesfull back in the 70's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I used to know a chap who was into comp safari in a big way and he told me that one day a chap he knew who must have worked for BL development turned up driving a works Sherpa van to take him someware. It went as would be expected for a 3.5ltr petrol but was noted to be a bit rattly, when they got back this was commented on by my aquaintance who was also big into V8 petrols & the response was to pop the bonnet revealing a V8 3.5Ltr diesel. I was also told that the engines failing was that the cranks used to fall out due to the main bearing bolts either stripping the threads in the block or they unscrewed themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 To me converting a v8 to diesel would be about the same as hearing that Kelly Brook was having a sex change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerboy_y2k Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 developed alongside Perkins Diesel IIRC, Probably why it didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brighouse shed Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 To me converting a v8 to diesel would be about the same as hearing that Kelly Brook was having a sex change. Don't like to tell you but i remember when she was called Ned...............okay I'm on my way............which door? err okay thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 To me converting a v8 to diesel would be about the same as hearing that Kelly Brook was having a sex change. Another man that speaks sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 And Mr Eales bought up all the bare unlinered blocks when they gave up super strong big bore blocks Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 And Mr Eales bought up all the bare unlinered blocks when they gave up super strong big bore blocks Nige Does that mean you are running a diesel block in your 90 Nige? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Maybe he is but he won't pollute it with something as nasty as Diesel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 your all wrong... derv is the best thing since sliced bread. and perkins is by far better than either CAT or that gay cummins stuff!! worked out today that i could fit a 2.7DTv6 into Brian's engine bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Nowt gay about a cummins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke keeper of badger Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 some of them crankshafts (blanks) were floating around on your Favourite auction site a few years ago maybe 5 years .....£500 iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 your all wrong... derv is the best thing since sliced bread. I'm not having sandwiches at your house then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 2.7tdv6 is a family of "lion" engines the 3.6 and now 4.4 v8 diesel are progressions of these. http://en.wikipedia.....4_Turbo_Diesel The twin turbo 4.4 diesel is immense throttle lag is amost zero, and pulls like a train. The Ford/JLR offerings of late have been well thought out engines, usually with more than one application. tdv6 in disco, jag diesels and PSA rrsport =4.2 supercharger and 4.4 in jag xkr defender uses transit block If you fancy the american version, 6.7l powerstroke @ 400hp is out soon in the states. I'm obviously a diesel fan, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 or that gay cummins stuff!! You've obviously never seen the Cummins V18 QSV91 then? All 91 litres of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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