highlandmist Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 A few weeks ago I replaced the alternator and PAS belts as I was getting that slippy belt squeel when turning 90 degrees at low speeds. This was a problem from the day I bought the Defender 200 Td1. I suspected the steering pump but as belts are cheap and I had bigger fish to fry I just replaced both alt and PAS belts. All seemd OK for a few weeks but it's started squeeling again. Closer inspection reveals that when the wheels are locked the PAS pulley can be seen to stop causing the belt to squeel, the tension seems good enough, can only squeeze a cm of slack out of it. I wonder whether I should try more tension ? Just to be clear, I never lock the wheels fully intentionally, the squeeling put me off from the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffernutter Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I shall be interested in the reply as my sons 200Tdi has the same issue. We wondered if we had contaminated the belt during the engine swap. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I have found that there are belts....and then there are belts! Cheap belts, or those without the correct V profile etc, are less capable of transmitting power and so slip easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_90 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I had problem with my 200tdi shreading V belts when winching hard but since fitting Goodyear v belts it stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 always use Dayco belts on my 200tdi, not had any big problems, which reminds me to retighten my PAS belt tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danebrewer Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I'll second that, I have a genuine LR PAS belt on my NA, and it's not overly tight, but it dosen't squeal on full lock, el cheapo belts probably as someone said don't have the right profile, and the material is also probably less grippy too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Or a worn pump pulley. That will make the belts squeal, cheap or otherwise, as the profiles won't match correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandmist Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 Worn pump pulley sounds like a difficult one to verify without trying a new one. A genuine LR belt shall be tried and then a pulley if no joy. I was just worried someone might say that the pump is nacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandmist Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Well lads, I finally got around to fitting a genuine land rover belt AND a genuine land rover pulley ! I had difficulty getting the old one off as the belt was slipping badly, I couldn't get my hands on a strap wrench. I ended up getting two bolts loose and then used two screwdrivers in the holes along with a piece of threaded bar to hold the whole thing still. I thought I would have real trouble tightening the bolts when I fitted the new parts, not at all. What a difference in traction, I got the bolts tightened no problem. Pulling out of tight parking spaces is no longer a cringe worthy experience, the squeeling is no more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandmist Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 The above solution seems to have lasted well, but the suspected underlying problem cam to a head a couple of weeks ago. On a shooting trip with several people in the vehicle the squeel returned. On returning home I discovered the belt was a wee bit loose again,so a gave it a wee tighten. The next day I was 200m into a drive when there was an almighty squeel from the beasty and then silence. I suspected a catastrophic failure and the heavy steering backed up my suspicion. We stopped along the road to find the PAS pump bearing had collapsed and the spindle was moving freely in any direction. Returning home I enticed £180 of my hard earned from the credit card and a few days later I have fitted a new PAS pump. I hope I have now put an end to this nonsense once and for all !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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