Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Whilst we are all drooling over Moglite could Andy explain the Q plate system and how you go about it for those of us who are Techie iliterate? sure there are many on here that would find it interesting and informative/educational. For instance is Mog road legal? taxed mot'ed? or does it have to be trailered? what are the legal requirements with such a project? Prop a topic that has been already covered but many of us need telling again! Thanks M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=6088 20secs of looking in the Tech archive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MogLite Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 It was MOT'd yesterday - won't be road legal until I get some insurance. Even then I won't be brave enough to drive it on the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=608820secs of looking in the Tech archive thanks for that,( i knew it was there) but some ones experiances are far more informative some times then a tech/data non personal write up? And as Andy's project is "news" at the mo i thought it would be an interesting read more so than some of my OT posts. Sorry to waste your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 It was MOT'd yesterday - won't be road legal until I get some insurance.Even then I won't be brave enough to drive it on the road It passed first time Well done Andy.. when your first practice outing and can I come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 hmmm I don't understand, shouldn't it have been issued with an MOT pass as a result of passing an SVA test that it would surely have needed given that it does not have enough original components of any of its donor vehicles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 now THIS you see is what i dont get! everybody has a differant opinion on this topic.. hence why i asked the question. I used Andy's project as an example we could relate to and his experiances. Older ... wiser... etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 hmmm I don't understand, shouldn't it have been issued with an MOT pass as a result of passing an SVA test that it would surely have needed given that it does not have enough original components of any of its donor vehicles? Chassie ,engine and gearbox are all original, be it facing the wrong way it's only got new axles in reality The donor vehicles was a Q to start with.. SVA has already been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 You can have as many opinions as you like but the rules are there for all to read negate/avoid them at your own risk/cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 i don't get that, there isn't enough of any of the donors to keep the plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 You can have as many opinions as you like but the rules are there for all to readnegate/avoid them at your own risk/cost. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Discoinferno welcome are you going to fill in your profile? do you have aparticular intrest in SVA etc anything to share or previous experiences to add. Les Brock is going through SVA presently I hope he'll add to this soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 A "Q" plate has no original car, age inderterminate, so the point is mute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 i don't get that, there isn't enough of any of the donors to keep the plate Point system components If I remember correctly it was built from all one Range Rover and it's got new axles and the wheel base has not been shortend or added to body doesn't count. Andy did loads of reasurch before the build he is better suited comment than me As Jez said sumes it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 not really no, it just looked like an interesting truck and reading through the link you posted I wondered how it would work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 actually yeah I am 1 day old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 not really no, it just looked like an interesting truck and reading through the link you posted I wondered how it would work I was under the impression you could do what you liked to a 'Q' for the reasons above (within reason) as long as it still gets through a MOT it could be road leagle Please correct me if I'm wrong (which isn't unusal ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 if you can that would be just dandy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 I was under the impression you could do what you liked to a 'Q' for the reasons above (within reason) as long as it still gets through a MOT it could be road leagle Please correct me if I'm wrong (which isn't unusal ) a while ago you were all talking about what will happen with the new SVA (is that right?) now here is where i make a complete and utter fool of myself AGAIN and ask.. if.. the above statement by Jules is true... why dont you just all "Q" plate your trucks? OK i know... stick to your shiney Mandy and dont try to think... its painful for all of us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Its not as easy as that or everyone would I am stepping away as its going over my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Safety laws when applied to vehicles cant (in theory) be made retrospectively (otherwise no one would be able to drive cars more than a few years old) so as a vehicle awarded a Q plate back in the dark depths of history Moglite is exempt from SVA. Vehicles currently being built that arent on old Q's would in theory incurr the SVA wrath unless of course; i) they dont get caught ii) they stay inside the regs iii) they find a findish and inscrutable way to exempt themselves from SVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 RE jules so am i ! its seems that OT posts are all i am mentally fit for. Andy, a lot of hard work has gone into your truck.. well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Surely that doesn't mean that the points rules don't still apply? That vehicle when it was adwarded a Q plate was for arguments sake a Rangie of some sort. If you then modify the chassis, change axles, engine, make a body out of tube etc you don't have enough points left to claim its the same vehicle and surely you have to SVA again? I don't see anywhere in those regs where it says q plates don't fall under those rules? maybe I missed it? if what you are saying is correct then you can buy any q plate vehicle, fit a body from a sea plane and a lawnmower engine and thats fine so long as it will pass an mot? i find that hard to believe Safety laws when applied to vehicles cant (in theory) be made retrospectively (otherwise no one would be able to drive cars more than a few years old) so as a vehicle awarded a Q plate back in the dark depths of history Moglite is exempt from SVA. Vehicles currently being built that arent on old Q's would in theory incurr the SVA wrath unless of course;i) they dont get caught ii) they stay inside the regs iii) they find a findish and inscrutable way to exempt themselves from SVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 no that will be fine. Our local garage will MOT it just fine. Now then Discoinferno who are you really? Sean at a guess visiting as he has time to spare perhaps. undoubtedly a loaded first post then your overly interested posts smells a little odd IMHO If you are a new real member then i'll apologise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 hmmm I don't understand, shouldn't it have been issued with an MOT pass as a result of passing an SVA test that it would surely have needed given that it does not have enough original components of any of its donor vehicles? No, you get the SVA, then you have to get an MoT afterwards! (well, i did when i SVA'd my 90) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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