ejparrott Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 I was thinking about The 109....entirely road car, going 'off-road' purely on and off campsites... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 not necessarily. its all about how vehicles are driven on the road that determines the tire life.. my mum fitted budget tyres to her car 2 1/2 years ago, still got about 4-6 left because its driven carefully and my friend went through a set on 4 months diving like an idiot.. its depends on the driving style so you cant say is rubbish. I drive like a normal person But really, I have a pretty heavy 110, heavy road and considerable off road use. I don't drive like a granny either. We are comparing a land rover to a land rover here...so there really shouldn't be that much difference, if people are wearing them down that fast they will burn out 'good' ones as well! I'd expect a special track to wear fast, but everyone I know on dakars have had good tyre wear. Nothing wrong with remoulds, Chances are I'll slit a sidewall at some point, rather do that on a remould than a BFG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I have done many thousands of miles on my insa turbo special tracks over the last ~6/7 years and they are wearing out but mainly due to the rubber degrading than the tread wearing. Still plenty of that! and im plenty capable of driving sensibly and like a tit..... Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 Having finally found a bit of time I've spent a few hours this week trawling the internet for tyres, and I'm actually thinking about trying a set of IT Rangers. Traction Track look like they're going to be too noisy, Hankook and Cooper STT I think are really a bit too expensive at the moment, and while the General's look very nice, at an extra £40 per tyre, although they are new and not remould, I think I'd be cursing if I damage one offroading or laning. Camskill.co.uk have the best price it seems, although they don't stock Cooper or General tyres. I'm going to go down the tyre fitters on Friday afternoon and see if they can offer me any better prices first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I run Cooper STT's on the 110 Ed, there very good at everything. I really woulld look into them more. And you can have a drive of the 110 if you want to "try" them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 IT Rangers? Sounds like a foreign football club FWIW - I've got Dakar's on the 90 now - they are pretty noisy considering that they are a 'standard' tread pattern - on road at 50ish MPH there's a considerable amount of tyre hum. The 90 came with BFG muds (of the wrong size), which the Dakar's are based on, and they were quieter, but still hummed a bit. For a mainly road car I'd be looking at something quieter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 http://www.tyredrive.co.uk/ This site seemed to give good prices on grabbers. Im probably going to use them soon. (Havent tried the site before) at least the 285/75/16 AT is a good price. Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 My thought was to give the Ranger a go, see how it went on the road, take it when we go offroading and laning next and see how it performs. If its quite but doesn't do very well in the mud, I'll put them on The 109 and try something a touch more aggresive on Kettle. Still don't really want to introduce much tyre noise in to the equation though, otherwise all my efforts will be in vain! STT's are still £108, versus £86 for the Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 i wont be reccomending insa turbos at all. bar off road of course!they are really grippy in the dry, especially on warm days, due to the softness of the rubber. in the wet theyre touch and go. which to be fair you should expect from off road tyres.what i will say though is that where decent (non remoulded proper brand) tyres, tell you when theyre about to let go of the tarmac, but these insa's dont. they just hold, hold, and then suddenly let go, pointing you towards a brick wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT247 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I swapped to Insa Turbo Dakar's from (well worn) BFG A/T's and have been running them for 3 months now. I'm very pleased with them, both on tarmac and in mud & snow. There is more tyre hum when cruising (as you would expect from a mud tyre) but I don't find it intrusive. While I don't hang about on the road, I'm aware that they're a mud tyre and take it a bit easier in bends and have had no concerns with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 I've been down to BT Tyres this morning and oddly enough they can't get IT Rangers from their stockists, although they can get Traction Tracks. He's given me a list of the 23585R16 tyres he can get, including AT2 and STT, I'm going to have another sit down and search and see what I think. Problem is I need 5 tyres as my spare is a 7.50, and at over £100 each that means my £500 budget isn't enough...having just started a new more expensive mortgage, I need to be a little careful! On top of that, The 109 currently has no spare either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Of course theres the cooper ST worth looking at as well.. If there like the STT's then there gonna be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Twig Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I ran Dakars for a couple of years - great in the mud but very noisy on road, and slightly terrifying in the wet. Had an accident as a direct result of having no grip whatsoever from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 the ST MAXX is a great tyre. not all that aggressive looking but for an A/T its great in the mud and very sticky on the road too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Some of these comments just seem plain bizarre! Terrifying in the wet...Very noisy... clearly I have some kind of miracle batch of rubber on mine If you want silent tyres and amazing wet performance...buy some road tyres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pux Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I have run these on a couple of landys and never had any problems in the wet etc a brilliant tyre for little money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryh Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Another yes from me. I've ran Dakar's for 3 years now, 265/75/16's. Done about 8000mls and no obvious signs of wear although I haven't measure tread depth. Yes a litlle noisey compared to more road bias tyres but expected that. Fine in dry, no problem for me in wet either. Truck does squirm a bit under heavy braking but par for size of tyre I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco1tdi Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 265/75r16's on my old Disco, and now on the 90. Their road performance is acceptable, in my view, but then perhaps I don't expect too much from them. At the end of the day it's a circa 2 tonne truck, with an high CoG, not a car. I try and drive it accordingly (keep your eyes peeled for a post in the future, about my having put it deep into the scenery). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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