ejparrott Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 oh boy..its turning into a right day....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB Serenity Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I've never been stopped and tested. I ran out of fuel once and a passing farmer stopped and gave me a litre of fuel to get to the nearest petrol station. I was so paranoid the whole way but I was driving through country lanes in a hardtop and in hindsight, if a policeman had seen me driving past they would most likely have thought I was a farmer anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heath robinson Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Recently, a friends' fathers' fairly new small john deer tractor (Like a giant lawn tractor, with a mower deck and all, but with a proper 3-point linkage) packed up. when the service engineer turned up, the fist thing he said was "Do you run it on red?". This thing's not registered, so it's always on red, and we told him as much. His reply to this was that the filter will be blocked, and he'll fit an easily changed cheap after-market one before the proper one. This, he said, was due to the quality of red diesel getting lower and lower, as the government was planning to phase it out in favour of a "Vat-back" type system. He said that he was seeing more and more of this blocked-filter business, and that in some places the red stuff was barely more than heating oil... Obviously I can't comment on the veracity of any of this, but I thought it would bear passing on. He fitted the new filter, and the cheap in-line one, and all was good, and smelled of new-mown grass. It's stopped once since then, and changing the in-line jobby sorted it out pronto, so there may be something to what he said. I'll say nothing of the fact that this is His punishment for using the Devil's micturations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Smith Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Yes, we've noticed at work that a lot of "red" is now more "brown" and agree most of it seems to contain more carp than diesel. I just thought it was a local thing but it seems not. I can't see that the fuel companies would start making it dirty just because it was being phased out though, and have heard nothing about that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey7134 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I THINK red diesel blocking filters quicker is due to them trying to make it environmentally friendly-er.. They've reduced the sulphur levels, in favour of some living bacteria type thing that is less polluting. This, when not used for a period of time, will settle leaving water at the bottom of the tank, where carp will grow, blocking the filters quicker. ...So why doesn't it happen with white diesel aswell..? White diesel has a higher level of sulphur than red - Reason for this being (again, I think) that the majority of things that run red diesel are generators / tractors, whose engines are not as fussy as a modern car engines about a little bit of impurities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I THINK red diesel blocking filters quicker is due to them trying to make it environmentally friendly-er.. They've reduced the sulphur levels, in favour of some living bacteria type thing that is less polluting. This, when not used for a period of time, will settle leaving water at the bottom of the tank, where carp will grow, blocking the filters quicker. ...So why doesn't it happen with white diesel aswell..? White diesel has a higher level of sulphur than red - Reason for this being (again, I think) that the majority of things that run red diesel are generators / tractors, whose engines are not as fussy as a modern car engines about a little bit of impurities. Red diesel has always been of a lower grade than road fuel. I personally don't think the red will ever die out due to it being of a lower grade, where will they send all the crappy dregs off to if we have to run road diesel in our plant and machinery? There has been talk of this rebate and a single fuel ie, white for as long as I have been in heavy plant and agriculture, probably will never happen but you never know? it would be almost impossible to police and what the hell would they test you for on the road side? I did see mentioned the exhaust soots burned different and left a residue but I was told by my copper friend that is just a story and it worked as a lot less vehicles that were pulled after it were running red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcc1979ian Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Theres only one real answer to this topic, DITCH THE DIEASEL AND GO V8.............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Theres only one real answer to this topic, DITCH THE DIEASEL AND GO V8.............................. i slow down for v8's though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdderlyOffroad Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Gawd let’s not start this again…we all know real trucks don’t have spark plugs… Hat, coat, door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Gawd let’s not start this again…we all know real trucks don’t have spark plugs… Hat, coat, door here here. (sheepishly runs away too!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 There will probably be an application of thread lock soon ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Smith Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 What's a spark plug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 A 'friend' of mine discovered that the industrial carbon filters at his work removed the dye from the red diesel they run there forklifts on. I would just like to say that not a drop of it has passed through my tdci mondeo over the last 8 years....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 What's a spark plug? Isnt that what is used as an ignitor is oil or gas fired boilers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 theyre piezo crystals. well, if you have to push it repeatedly to get repeated sparks, i.e. only fires once per button push it is a piezo crystal, if it self repeats (like most gas cookers) its a spark plug type thing. i think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydie Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 we dont have dyed diesel in Oz, it comes from the same tanker regardless of end use, be that heating fuel, farm implements or power generation. I have a 200 litre home oil fired tank outside our place which I get filled up every year, despite having pulled out the heater years ago, if ever the tax man catches me no doubt he will have some firm words to say but then hes got to prove it didnt simply evaporate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-d Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Guess it's the same over Europe I can tell you it is here in holland and when we have had our trucks in France we had the diesel stolen from the truck tanks but never touched the 1000 litres of red in the trailer even after slicing the curtain for a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-d Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 They even took the filler caps last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamC Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Does anyone know what the rules are regarding running on veg in Europe? My last trip I went over there with a tank full of veg, it then occurred to me that perhaps this wasn't allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-d Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Does anyone know what the rules are regarding running on veg in Europe? My last trip I went over there with a tank full of veg, it then occurred to me that perhaps this wasn't allowed? I have wondered the same myself, im told its not allowed here but i have not found out for sure, it might vary from country to country but im not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydie Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 This topic always amuses me, here in good old Oz we dont have any such problems, if you're on the land you get fuel tax free from your main supplier for bulk deliveries to your farm however getting it from your local service station for bowser fuel in your truck is apparently a hassle and you have to horde your reciepts and claim it back every four months. For my part I have an oil fired ducted heater that uses around 200 litres a month even in 40 degree hot summer weather ---- odd that if the tax man ever figures it out I'm a gonner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Marginally on topic (use of Red) caught a bit of that carp Police program where they add stupid propaganda as we are all too thick. Last nights was Police following a Rangie belching white smoke. Police reasons for it: May have put wrong fuel in. May be knackered Might be running on Red????? If it was that obvious you would not need to dip! Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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