simonr Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I had planned to make some like this: But the machining cost was prohibitive. Then Nick came up with the idea above which IMHO is a better design and a fraction of the cost. If any of you want to CNC your own, here's the file! Hawse.IGS Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 If you make it from tube what wall thickness would be sensible? I've heard of people buying preformed bends to weld up for making their hawse but haven't been able to find anything other than exhaust bends for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 If you make it from tube what wall thickness would be sensible? I've heard of people buying preformed bends to weld up for making their hawse but haven't been able to find anything other than exhaust bends for sale. You're probably not looking in the right place then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 This is my work in progress design for my fairlead: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 You're probably not looking in the right place then! Thank you Nick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 How about one like this instead? 42mm stainless tube. Looks great, i carn't find one on your website though Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I agree with Barry (and I'm sure I heard it from Mike) the fairlead is structural to the winch. I dissagree, the mountings are plenty rigid enough, it might stop the tops of the casting wandering around if the drum deflects under load, but i don't think it's adding a lot structurally, The 525's predisessor the fairey 5000 is identical mechanically but has much poorer mounting and the fair lead doesn't mount to the winch at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I only just got them back from polishers. I suspect that you would need a bespoke length anyway, these are intended for an 8274+3" (£120) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Otherwise known as delrin or acetal as i mensioned at the top of the thread, delrin being its trade name. I'm not sure Delrin would be any good, we've got a job in for the Welsh Highland railway, replacing pivot bearings for th K1 Garrett. It was fitted with a Delrin sleeve and pressure plate but they've worn increible badly, we're making new bronze parts for it. It doesn't strike me as being that resiliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I'm not sure Delrin would be any good, we've got a job in for the Welsh Highland railway, replacing pivot bearings for th K1 Garrett. It was fitted with a Delrin sleeve and pressure plate but they've worn increible badly, we're making new bronze parts for it. It doesn't strike me as being that resiliant I made Dom the welders Hawses on his challenge truck from Delrin, front, back and centre winches and they havnt worn at all over this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 I couldn't decide on what plastic would work best, so i decided to use stainless. Instead of machining one out of billet, i bought a hawse from Nick at http://delta-tek.co.uk/ because it's a lot lighter than a solid one, and at 42mm its 3x my rope diameter. I got mine unpolished so i could modify it for the superwinch 525 Back guard to look after the radiator. Added a tag for my bonnet catch support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Very nice job Was the Delta-tek hawse a special size for you or a standard size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 It's a 8274 +3" ones that Nick normally makes I just had a little width taken out to perfectly match the 525. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Some fine looking fabrication there Dan. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Looking sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 My worry from a synthetic rope would be the rope wearing a sharpened groove in the plastic and then that cutting the rope 20 years ago when silly idiots banned wooden butchers blocks the plastic ones used to cause serious cuts to hands and arms once damaged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I made my front fairlead out of 16 (I think) dia stainless bar, heated to go around a welded jig. Only mistake was that I made the jig out of tube rather than solid bar, which then distorted under the heat. The rear fairlead I bent freestyle to around 50 mm CLR so it can sit at around 45 degrees and not compromise on departure angle. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Dan - That looks fantastic! Nick - why haven't I got one?! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Nick - why haven't I got one?! Could it be because you didn't visit ebay? They are a bargain at £120 , for you I will deliver it free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 My next Issue is what to coating to use on the rest of the hawse. I was thinking about polishing the part of the hawse the rope runs over then painting he rest of it black. But I'm not sure I like the look of the shiney hawse on the front of my car. So I was thinking about powder coating it all black, but I think mud and carp on the rope would eat the coating. So my final thought was to have it plated, is there a proper name for black electroplating stainless? And would it last? Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 we've had black e coat done in the past, supposed to be better than powder coating as parts are dipped rather than sprayed and the thickness will be the same all over. It seems to go dull over time but we've had better anti corrosion results than some of the zinc plating we've had done in the past. Don't really know about how it will wear but I can find some parts out that you can have if you want to test it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Would chemical blacking work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 I don't think chemical blacking would wear well, allthough the rope wearing through the blacking would still leave a lot of the hawse black. Tungsten carbide coating would be nice if a little pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Landrover chrome works best! And the galv on the hawse wears out soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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