joe1970 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Ive just fitted a winch to my disco and wired it the way it was on the motor I got it off, straight to the battery. It was on a land rover I bought and I kept it when I sold the vehicle. I previously used it on that land rover with no problems. Only thing I have done different is put a bit of copper slip on the bit where the control wire fits to the winch because the contacts were a bit grubby and it wouldnt work. 1st time I used it, after a minutes pulling it wouldnt click off! I had to pop the bonnet and disconect it to stop it. Two questions. Is the winch fecked or could it be the copper slip? Whats the proper way to wire them up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Someone on here proved that copper slip is an insulator so it won't be causing your problem of not clicking off. Sounds like a solenoid sticking, so maybe that needs replacing, however I'd wait till a 'leccy winch expert wanders by this thread and see what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Sounds like the solenoid stuck on. If you have the cylindrical silver solenoids, my experience is that they don't like long periods of not being used. I suggest replace the solenoid with an Albright type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 An example of what I mean http://www.mudsport.co.uk/index.php/offroad-equipment/winches/albright-solenoid-extra-heavy-duty.html They aren't cheap, but you only need one. The silver can type you need 4 of, these work out cheaper and are far more reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1970 Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Cheers for the input lads, as you have probably guessed I know absolutly nothing about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 You should have an isolator fitted to protect against solenoids welding themselves closed. Albrights are well proven, as well as being smaller and easier to wire than seperate solenoids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1970 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Am I reading this right, if I fit an albright solenoid it will bypass the one fitted in the winch even if its broke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 You replace the one in the winch, put a picture of your winch up in this thread and I'm sure someone will be able to give you better instructions once they know the type of winch you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1970 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Ive just checked the winch again as its not raining now! Once the winch has been started it just keeps going until its stopped by disconnecting it from the battery. So seems like the the solenoid is stuck? Just found this after a quick google.... http://www.wandering.../warnwinch.html So Iam thinking take the cover off the top of the winch and replace solenoid with an albright one? Anyone with advice or tips appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 You haven't said which type of winch you have. If you have a 'bridge' style winch you may not be able to fit an alibright inside the bridge solenoid housing. Instead, you would have to mount it externally. Are you sure it's wired correctly? It's possible that it's wired so that it's keeping itself running. It depends how much of the wiring you've touched. If a contactor has welded, it normally stays welded all the time, it doesn't unweld itself when you remove the power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1970 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 LandyManLuke, Its a warn XD9000i All I did was connect the positive and negative to the battery, the vehicle I took it off the red was to the starter motor and the black to the chassis. The land rover I took it off was a p reg 300tdi 90 the discovery I have put it on is a m reg 300tdi. This is exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Have you had a look inside the bridge? You may find a wiring issue. If you post some photos we can have a look. If you mount an albright inside the bridge, make sure it is secure and can't short out against the housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 That's an integregrated 'bridge' solenoid pack. You should just have a live and earth connection to that, all else is inside the bridge. The old style solenoids look like this, and are rather rubbish: Later Warn stuff is more like this I believe: No idea how good they are in service, but they look like a plastic bodied equivalent of the top image, and you still need 4 of them. The Albright type: Well recognised as being the type to have for reliability. Only need one of these. If you choose one of these, make sure you get the correct voltage, they are available in 12 and 24V versions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1970 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Have you had a look inside the bridge? You may find a wiring issue. If you post some photos we can have a look. If you mount an albright inside the bridge, make sure it is secure and can't short out against the housing. Ok thanks soon as i get time i will take bridge off and have a look then I can go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1970 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Thanks mickeyw, it is quite an old winch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1970 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Anybody tried one of these? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-EXTRA-HEAVY-DUTY-500amp-WINCH-SOLENOID-THE-BEST-UPGRADE-AVAILABLE-/281027244563?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item416e877213 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Go for a Albright solly pack everytime, proven & tested by lots of winch owners, including myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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