Theo disco Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Dos a centre LSD Quaife in the LT230 box have still a difflock option? I have read a interesting article about 3x LSD in the drive line of a defender. One front, one rear, and one centre diff. I think is is a very nice and interesting setup. I would like to hear some experiance Regards Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big.Mike Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 From memory, no. You shouldn't really need a lock on this kind of setup. Only thing I would say is avoid Quaife if at all possible, they have some real quality issues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo disco Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 Strange. When I look around the web, i find only positive readings about Quaife. Also at Ashcroft they promote this stuf, and say it is stronger than any other. High quality steel, and more internal gears to work together. so less stain per gear. In what situation do you need a central lock when you have 3 LSD fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big.Mike Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Ashcroft started making their own LSD to avoid the issues with quaife... Quality isn't about strong steel, you have to realise that quaife make these things in small batches, several years apart so the introduction of errors into their manufacture process is massive. incorrect pinions, incorrect material, development by selling product are all rubbish ways of producing product. Quaife have the attitude that these parts are only ever going to be used in motor sports so only have to last one race... That's my point, with good lsd you shouldn't need a locking centre diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Yes, it is still lockable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Ashcroft started making their own LSD to avoid the issues with quaife... But Ashcroft don't make one for the LT230, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosbeldia Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 This Ashcroft ATB is just a take out / put in thing? I've been thinking in this help, but I'm very concerned in installation difficult, since here in my city there is no a person who can install an ARB technically.... it´s easy to install this LSD? what about the Truetrac? which one is better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Truetrac is the same (in principal) as Ashcroft's ATB, therefore straight forward to install. Which is better, well there both install and leave it items that work very well. I've seen busted truetrac's and not a single report of issues with Ashcroft's ATB so my suggest is the ATB. ......Maybe a bias opinion as I have one sitting in the garage waiting to replace a 10 spline truetrac. Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosbeldia Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Is a big risk to install ATB with standar half shafts in the front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Only if you have a lead right foot. Standard shafts are not so much of a worry with an LSD (or variant of) compared to a locker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjp1990 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I managed to snap my frond shaft like a twig with 265/75 16 bgf muds with the ATB with a little left foot braking when I was stuck at idle speeds reversing out of a peat ditch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo disco Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 A axle snapping can always happen. Most likely it had already a fracture from a different action. I have read the ashcroft site, but can not find any info about the centre diff replacment with either a Quaife or other brand. I have my info out of the HAYNES Land Rover Defender Modifying Manual. So I sended Ascroft a mail and wait for the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 This Ashcroft ATB is just a take out / put in thing? I've been thinking in this help, but I'm very concerned in installation difficult, since here in my city there is no a person who can install an ARB technically.... it´s easy to install this LSD? what about the Truetrac? which one is better? The expertise needed to install a locker diff is to properly adjust the bearings for preload and good engagement between ring and pinion. This is the same for any diff, be it an open diff, Quaife, ARB or Ashcroft locker/ATB. One way to get around it is to buy a diff already built up in the housing, then it's just a straight swap. The only extra work needed for an ARB or Ashcroft locker is an airline, compressor and a bit of electrickery. While these do represent a reasonable surplus in cost, it is not hard at all to install. Filip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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