mmgemini Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I use ratchet straps to hold my Wolff boxes and other stuff in the back of my Defender. I have Cargo Rail on the floor with the straps sewn to the bits that fit into the cargo rail. Again I've managed to knacker a ratchet...That generally means curring the stiching on the strap and having a new ratchet fitted. SO ? ? What if I took the ratchet off the strap and replaced it with Velcro ? Would the Velcro be strong enough ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I guess it's a function of how much velcro you use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagmire Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Pretty sure if you use enough velcro you could secure anything to anything- my question would be how do you tension it down snugly like a ratchet strap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Pretty sure if you use enough velcro you could secure anything to anything- my question would be how do you tension it down snugly like a ratchet strap? Ah, I was assuming the velcro would be used to attach the ratchet so when they needed replacing no more sewing was required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagmire Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Ah- could be! Clarification needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 I'd thought of binning the ratchet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 How I generally have stuff tied down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 In which case I'd be inclined to agree with Quagmire, how will you apply the tension? I'd also wonder how long the velcro will last with repeated use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 You could just use rope and a truckers hitch to apply tension. Nothing to wear out other than the rope so ideal for the middle of nowhere. EDIT: I imagine you know exactly how to tie one but for anyone else having a look this is what I mean from http://www.animatedknots.com/truckers/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 I'll give a bit of thought. I might make one up and see what happens. Nothing to loose No I don't know how to use a truckers knot. I've always used ratchets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big.Mike Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Not velco, but if you only have the crates in the back, why not just get some over centre latches and hold the boxes together? http://www.southco.com/product/class.aspx?cid=7415 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Pretty sure if you use enough velcro you could secure anything to anything- my question would be how do you tension it down snugly like a ratchet strap? You can use velcro to attach armour to a tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wettstuff Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 mmgemini how about cam straps? http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004ODP8YC/ref=asc_df_B004ODP8YC11113239?smid=A1EJNN7CY5N1PK&tag=googlecouk06-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22218&creativeASIN=B004ODP8YC not connected to these just the first site google came up with i use them for light loads on the works pick up and vans, Holding cement mixers, barrows, mowers, ladders, all sorts of stuff. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 mmgemini how about cam straps? http://www.amazon.co...ASIN=B004ODP8YC not connected to these just the first site google came up with i use them for light loads on the works pick up and vans, Holding cement mixers, barrows, mowers, ladders, all sorts of stuff. Mark I had some of those. I don't like them....Sorry..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 You could just use rope and a truckers hitch to apply tension. Nothing to wear out other than the rope so ideal for the middle of nowhere. EDIT: I imagine you know exactly how to tie one but for anyone else having a look this is what I mean from http://www.animatedk...ckers/index.php Thats awful complicated, and certainly not what my lorry-driving friend uses! I'll see if I can get him to do a demonstration, trust me it ain't that complicated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 There are a number of ways to make the top loop and once that is tied it doesn't need to be undone in Mikes application. The bit that is repeatedly undone is simplez I use the butterfly knot for the top loop which is easily tied just by wrapping the rope around your hand three times. Although this video makes it look more complex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I came up with the trucker's hitch entirely independently - so it's not that complicated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I came up with the trucker's hitch entirely independently - so it's not that complicated! Make a massive difference when securing things with rope, really useful and like you say it is pretty simple, just hard to show/explain over the 'net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Thats awful complicated, and certainly not what my lorry-driving friend uses! I'll see if I can get him to do a demonstration, trust me it ain't that complicated! That is complicated. Not like i was shown by a driver from Red House back in the 70's or by an ex partriot farmer from Staffordshire in the 90's, nice and simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Mike there are some cool things in this months Leo that might be worth a look, nite ize camjam cord tighteners. Dollying rope is ok and has its place ie tying straw and hay etc but I do like small ratchet straps but proper ones with metal hooks from the likes of theratchetshop.co.uk rather than thos cheap little ones with plasticy hooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 That animated knots thing is great, I have the iPhone app from them and its brilliant. Perfect for when the scouts ask me for a knot I can't remember. Alpine Butterfly is one of my favourite knots. Due to the way its tied, it also doesn't weaken the rope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I use the carter's hitch for tying things like wood and trees onto trailers, which is the hitch above by another name. Ratchet straps are hard to beat though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 I'm wondering if I can take the ratchet apart and straighten it ? It can't be any worse than it is after I've tried ? CAN IT ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I've bent ones at work back into shape and they still work OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 are you using decent ratchet straps? ive only ever managed to bend one by running it over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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