need4speed Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 http://www.ebay.co.u...=item53ed463916 Has anyone ever used one of these before? Obviously a bit cheap n nasty for doing lots of them, but how about doing the odd rivnut here and there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I've got a similar Sealey version. If you have a good grip it works fine.... Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Oooo i was just thinking about one of these today... Neil, what do you mean by good grip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Ive got hands like shovels so thats all good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 You have to squeeze the handles together to set the Rivnut. Therefore you need reasonably good strength in your hands. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 oh right, i thought it was something more technical. cool, order placed... good spot Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Have a read of my thread here... http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=80068 The one you're shewing is ten times less than the plier tool I'm using at present. I've snapped the through bolt on my Riv-Nut pliers.... Completely useless if you think of stainless steel Riv-Nuts.... I'd prefere to use the screw and nut method for the odd one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Those rivnut pliers are ok for use with aluminium only up to m8, no larger....but to use them at all you have to do some welding on the tool, even with just occasional use. Simply, they are just not strong enough and the tops bend outwards as you apply force. If you look at the top of the tool you will see the center shaft and the 2 round bits that act against the center, they are only held against the shaft by the sides of the tool and they will slip after a few uses. You can get around the issue by just welding a piece of metal over the top of the tool to hold the 2 sides together.....or put a G clamp round it to hold it together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Looks very like mine, its done quite a few now no problems, only M5 and M6 bar 2 or 3 M8's, yes you do need strong hands, but I've had no indications of failure yet, nor needed any welding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Conversely...I've been through 2 sets, mostly doing m8s though. Current one is welded and works perfect now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco1tdi Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I've used the same with stainless M5, and it's been fine. Admittedly you can feel a bit a flex in it, but at the price you can find them on ebay, it's hard to argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 They are ok[ish] for occasional use and are useful for use in tight spaces, I have one similar to this which is much stronger and easier to use but not so good where space is tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 They are ok[ish] for occasional use and are useful for use in tight spaces, I have one similar to this which is much stronger and easier to use but not so good where space is tight. I've been using the same type as you HOG and they are great as you say apart from where space is tight. Can easily rip the threads out of the M6 aluminium rivnuts if you aren't paying attention though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 I have one similar to this which is much stronger and easier to use but not so good where space is tight. Look good but BIG difference in price. £85 for 6 or so rivnuts is a bit rich for me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Look good but BIG difference in price. £85 for 6 or so rivnuts is a bit rich for me.. Oh I agree it's much more expensive, does rivets to though I actually borrow my dads one which I believe he got for £65 from a local tool place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Look good but BIG difference in price. £85 for 6 or so rivnuts is a bit rich for me.. The pliers I have cost me 50 quid some years ago, that was a discounted price. If you're only doing a few, why buy the pliers ? The nut and screw method should suffice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 The reason i havent seriously looked into the nut n bolt method is due to some saying it works, and others saying it doesnt. Especially with M8 rivnuts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The reason i havent seriously looked into the nut n bolt method is due to some saying it works, and others saying it doesnt. Especially with M8 rivnuts.. Give it a try. The worst that can happen is you'll have to drill the Riv-Nut out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Ok, so went ahead and bought the rivnut tool i lnked to in my original post. Wish i hadnt bothered. Trying to insert M8 rivnuts (RRC8666) that hold heater onto bulkhead. Not a hope in hell of doing them! Even with my ham-like hands. Glad i tried a tester before attacking the bulkhead. That would have been a disaster! So does anyone have a more manly rivnut tool i could borrow for a short period of time? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcc1979ian Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I managed to do my 2 rivnuts for the heater to bulkhead with mine but i have to say my hands and wrists were sore for a good while afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Maybe the rivnuts i have are steel.. They wont budge in the slightest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Ok, so went ahead and bought the rivnut tool i lnked to in my original post. Wish i hadnt bothered.Trying to insert M8 rivnuts (RRC8666) that hold heater onto bulkhead. Not a hope in hell of doing them! Even with my ham-like hands. Glad i tried a tester before attacking the bulkhead. That would have been a disaster! So does anyone have a more manly rivnut tool i could borrow for a short period of time? Phil The Memfast one will cope with M8, has option of M10, but I haven't tried that. It uses standard cap head Allen bolts, so worse case you strip the thread, they are easy to replace. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Steve, My Memfast tool has 6mm square drive with the male section on the fastener driver. My M10 one sheared and they seem to be difficult to get - out if stock for ages. It is a good setup for the smaller, softer materials though. Donald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 The memfast set does look good. That will be a costly 4 rivnuts mind you...... Still i guess it will be handy thing to have in the tool set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thing is while it may be expensive to buy a decent tool just to do a handful now you never know when you might need to call on the tool again in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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