tuko Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Yesterday was our local club's first open day for the year, where my mate and I had to attend making like were having fun... Of course we did, we stayed away from all the established tracks, making our own. BUT by doing so my oil pan took a beating: Finally to the point where I put a hole through it. As soon as the oil pressure light lite, I stopped the engine and checked finding that I was spilling oil out the bottom of the pan. Thankfully turning off the motor quickly save the day. Once home (David towed me the 110 km's) I removed the oil pan from the spare motor and installed that. So now I'm at the point of wondering what others are using for oil pan protection on their hybrids? I'm of the idea of having a full plate (6mm) under the oil pan that is eventually bolted on by means of the two lower motor mount bolts which are easy to get at from underneath. In the mean time here are some pictures from yesterday in Oskarshamn, Sweden: http://www.tukojack.com/blogggallery/index.php?level=album&id=15 Cheers,Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Tuko, as a first comment, great effort . I did exactly that in Russia, it didn't quite puncture, but effectively blanked off the sif, reducing the oilflow to the oilpump, leading to eventual failure of a main bearing, days later. I have since then created a sump with tripple skin (skins from other sumps cut up)and extra ribbing on the inside to increase strength. In hindsight, it wasnt a great job, because the sump is made of 2 thin skins, which is a pain to weld. I did look at an additional guard, but it is pretty close to my PTO shaft and exhaust, so I havent really got on with it, but still might do. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 Thanks Daan, I have a spare steering guard that I'm thinking of cutting up for the skid plate under the oil sump. I'm basically concerned if there will be any issues by using the lower motor mount bolts on the cylinder block? If there are no known issues from others, then I'm thinking of dropping straight down from the motor mount bolts and welding a shovel type plate to protect the oil sump. Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 i had this issue with a td5 sump after it took a bite out the ground & when we fixed it, it looked like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 That's nice, too bad I can't weld aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 nether can i, that was exchanged for a good sized slab of beer, was a good thing it happened though as the oil pump bolt was loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 This picture for inspiration: http://www.offroad-armory.com/store/image/cache/data/sump-guard-500x500.jpg The problem with this is that stones can get trapped in between, which is going to make matters worse when it gets hit. You can fill in the void with expanding foam or some kind of foamy rubber sort of thing, which then might compromise cooling. It depends if you have an oil cooler. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 Dann, I'm thinking along the same lines. The oil pan has an outer lip and the bolts are short M10's so that why I'm considering another mounting point. The 4 motor mount bolts are M16 and screw into the block 20mm. I'm figuring that if I use 6mm plate, the 14mm of bolt in the block shouldn't affect the integrity of the motor mount. Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Cool timing on this topic as I did this to My sump (200 tdi) last year at kov. I was lucky and its want a huge hit a managed to miss the oil pickup etc and carried on running with no side affects. I replaced the sump with spare from one of my other engines. I was going to make a guard like the one above.. then as thought the sump was steel i changed my mind and planed to just weld a 6mm steel plate to the bottom of it.... But maybe a guard is an easier way forward after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I didn't think sump damage was a problem on LR's as the front axle gives protection, how are you all getting this problem? Do any of you know what caused the damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 how are you all getting this problem? Do any of you know what caused the damage? Ya, Offroading and big boulders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 This is how far I've gotten with the sump guard which I made from an old steering guard that I had saved: This will bolt on to the 2 lower motor mount bolts on each side of the block. The M16 bolts were shorter than the holes on the block so I'll be changing them out for longer at the same time. Later today I'll do some trimming and drill a few holes to lessen the weight of the sump guard before paint. Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I can get that in there nice and tidy, as I have this; And a long under-ski that finishes near the axel; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Greenstream was saying his belly pan was 3mm 6082 aluminium, which I know from expirience to be very hard. I said it sounded thin, but he said it worked well. Made more sence than the 4mm 5083 I was thinking of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted May 26, 2013 Author Share Posted May 26, 2013 The Oil sump guard is done and fits nicely. Bolted on by means of the 2 lower motor mount bolts. I did change them out for longer bolts to compensate for the additional spacing from the 6mm plate. Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 looking good, Tuko. How much distance have you got between the sump and the guard? Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 I can easily get my fingers in there so I'm guessing around 15mm ? A bit of leeway in case a boulder decides (tries) to ruin my day again. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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