De Ranged Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 Lol for me its fun as its not work... its kind of why I haven't bothered to learn 3D Had enough of measuring and CAD and a mate wanted a catch up at the shed so I felt I should do something on the truck, so I decided to take a punt that the transfercase bits on there way up will fit and decided to finish the PTO shaft, by cutting the dog clutch splines Still got another pass to cut down the middle of each tooth and I have a spline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 As I said once before, I don't have any tooling for my mill, but I look at the latest pic above and wonder whether I do in fact have something very cheap and readily available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 Lol I think I should state the risks and the safety if your going to have a go at copying... grinding with the mill is a case of patience lol push too hard or deep and bang.... they are no where as nasty as when they blow in a grinder as the mill can only spin them at 1200rpm But you still want a full face mask and keep your hands below the level of the disk another good tip is to watch out for gauling on the disk you won't see it on the disk you see it as heat marks on the work, if you look at the pic the cut out spline below the last cut.... its more obvious due to the lack of material to sink the heat but if this had been a first cut I would have swopped the disk out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Well after all this time on CAD I am admitting defeat... I was getting too many compromises in an attempt to fit the chassis rails within spec's for offroad racing and given the few times I want to have a play.... back to the original plan lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Don't blame you! You can make something that works, tweak it around a bit, then when you're happy you still have the option of setting it up for competition. I mean, that's you - I am just grateful when my Land Rover goes, stops and gets a warrant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Do we need to put some Ultra4 videos up to inspire your brain working a bit harder?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 LOL thats what prompted the idea but it doesn't change the fact I have too many compromises to to run the leaf springs and a full chassis Was only ever going to be a short term thing to race... as I want to build a class 10 offroader, hyabussa powered mini offroader lol Got some time on the toy today..... got the parts LT95 so pulled that and started rebuilding the toy's transfer case looks like the gamble is going to pay off, rough measurements show the diff can swop, but the low gear on the diff has different mountings so I'm in the process of swopping all the gears from the parts one.... I know its only going to do low k's but it feels wrong to mix gears lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Do we need to put some Ultra4 videos up to inspire your brain working a bit harder?? yes! yes you most certainly do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I can't help wondering if there is any news from down under and left a bit? .... (if I left gears on the bench for this long I would never be able to re-assemble it! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 If you check out DeRanged's camper van thread, you'll see he has been side-tracked by something perhaps more ambitious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks for the heads up, ..... now I get it, .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 Work has moved me again lol Christchurch now, but as a bonus I'm being given access to the company workshop after hrs so I'm taking this toy down to play on it..... more to the point some of the parts and a collection of other parts from other stuff So I have something to play with down there I've bought another toy.... a custom built trials truck (it was going cheap.... very cheap) Toyota V6 Cammery front wheel drive motor and auto box mounted north south, hilux steering axles front and rear, hydro steer front and rear with a return to center setup for the rear, 4 wheel fiddles etc The intent is to CAD up a full tube chassis for the Cammery (better motor than the commy) in the shape of a series landy.... I say shape because its going to be a bit wider than normal so there will be no landy parts left in this.... too much hassle to try and tig weld a filler piece into the roof, I'll get a couple of car roofs and weld them with the mig I'll use the rock assult style axle for the front and make another for the rear, and take the hydro steering off the trials truck for both The suspension will be from this truck for the rear and what I've made for the front but I'll add JJ's and the RRC balljoints instead of the rubber ends The rest of the stuff will come from the trials truck or my collection at home So basically this isn't going to be a landy lol I'll still call it that because I'm going to shape it like one but that is the only connection to a landy it will have...... so do I continue the build thread here? I've started a build thread on a local site (NZ) and I was thinking to just leave this with a link to that..... but since I've started would you guys like me to continue to post on this thread ? There won't be much happening straight away as we are working long hrs to impress our new client lol and I want to CAD as much as possible before I start so the building of it will be quicker at the moment all I'm doing is modifying a set of 16" rims to narrow them and beadlock them so they will fit a set of 35x10" silverstone M117 xtremes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 It doesn't have to be land rover in this section so I say post away I'm interested if no one else is. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Yes, continue I say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Yes please. Tell us all about this project - soounds very interesting ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I want to keep reading - seems a shame though if you're going to lose a load of the lovely work you've done here already through going in a new direction ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Sweet as guys I'll keep posting Fortunately I'm going to be building this 750km and a 6hr ferry ride from home so the cost of bringing it down was just too much, I'll get some bits down through mates (my axles and and the rear suspension and some other bits n tools) This trials truck I've bought was too good a deal.... a bit on the ugly side but and not that flash suspension wise but a cool list of parts and has prompted where I intend to take the build The front wheel drive V6 Cammery and auto is a very good setup for this the local trials guys use these autos with LS1+ motors, the motor is an improvement over the holden commador motor I was planing on (still uncertain on motor model lol, if it happens to be the later model 3.5 they are 270hp) The axles are hiiux solid steering axles front and rear with 4.8 ratio diffs with chinese ARB's, he was running cromoly birfs but talking with people who have competed against this rig have warned me it eats diffs cv's and axles.... which is what I'd expect running a hilux steering axle in the rear The full hydro front and rear steer with the rear self centering (this isn't as simple as you'd think or cheap lol) As well as this its got 4 wheel fiddle brakes and all the other stuff 50mm wheel spacers, seats, belts controls etc I was planing on hydro steering for the toy anyway and hllux axles to go with the repower, the rear steer is something I was thinking about as it lets you run a longer wheel base (better for climbing and decents) and still have a good turning circle The front wheel drive trans mounted north south I've done before in a Lada Niva and works really well problem is fitting 2 people and a motor inside the cab means the cab has to get wider.... this is where my porn axles come in they are a combination of cruiser and hllux inner axles to make the housing I think 70mm wider than a standard hilux that plus a pair of 50mm spacers and I'll be around 1950mm wide a tight fit but do-able, this keeps me nice and low which I like So basic plan (still pending on any issues I find when I pick up the trials truck) Keep the trials truck running till I have the chassis rolling and ready to take all the parts Wheel base 106-108"(in inches since most people understand this lol) Wheel track to outside of wheel around 1950mm wide Camry V6 motor and trans mounted between the seats with a weight bias to the front of 55/45 to 60/40% mounted in a space framed tub that fits over the motor and will tie into the suspension mounts and cage, the cage will be shaped to look like an exo over a landy cab the guards at the front will be a tube style guard to look like the front of a series same at the back but to the shape of a shorty tub Suspension will be the same in the rear but with JJ's and RRC balljoints The front a 1/4 elliptical setup but with a conventional triangulated 4 link A custom version of my rockassault axle for the rear with a set of Longs in it (already have), front will be the housing I already have but will fit some of the axles from the trials truck for the moment fit the hydro steering, change the Air lockers into some 4.3 diffs to increase the speed a bit That about covers it As for the work I've done lol I've enjoyed doing it thats good enough I'll probably trade or give away all the bits to mates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted August 14, 2016 Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 A wee teasers of an update Just got back from a roady to go get the trials truck "outlaw" she's sitting at work, no brakes, exhaust manifold leak, no reverse gear on the trans its slipping bad.... think this maybe due to way to much oil in the trans, I'd guess a collapsed king pin bearing on one corner that I'd guess has been gone for a while due to the excessive wear on the disk, the rear self centering hydro steering lol yea well hmmm and lol well.... you really need to see some pics of this... unfortunately my cam on the phone is carp (I tried but you really can't see what you want to see), got a new one arriving tomorrow hopefully lol I love it.... there is some real cool engineering in this.... but its this wild cross of trials tech redneck style lol we are going to thrash this thing But I'll leave ya a crappy vid of beertarra playing on the old mans toy on the road trip down http://vid243.photobucket.com/albums/ff195/De_Ranged/Junk/MOV00001.mp4 More to come lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Cheers for that.... Been talking with a mate who is a technical oil specialist and he's convinced the missing reverse is the oil.... its the wrong type so going to flush it and see Got my phone but was a late night so only grabbed a few pics (will post some more tomorrow) Here it is in its glory Here is why it has no brakes.... note the rather crafty bodge lol have to admit first time I've seen this before And here's a couple of the cage X brace There is more lol lets just say I have a few things to fix before I thrash this..... but i'm going to do as little as I can to this, since I'm building a whole new chassis body for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Is that two brake pad backings with no material on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 That's a whole different kind of special.. but I can see the overall appeal I quite like it (ignoring the bodges). Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Is that two brake pad backings with no material on them? Yep and the second one still wasn't enough to stop it blowing the seals out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 Finally doing something with this.... got a 20L of the right trans fluid and a few cans of brake clean time to do some work on it First off sort the sump so I can move it around... and stop the oil leak under it spreading Now when I bought this the sump was dry other than a couple of small weep marks where the welds for the sump guard had pin holes 2 weeks later and the whole sump is wet.... suggests its been dry untill just before I turned up to buy it hmmmm Get the sump off and discover the over full nice red oil is sitting ontop of some thick black oil..... that I think may have been what was left of the trans fluid last time it was taken out for a play... Oh yay On a positive note when I started to wash the black stuff out I found someone had tossed a couple of magnets in the bottom of the sump and these only had normal wear (metalic powder) on them, this is a good thing because of what I noticed next The filter has a dint in it that has been good enough to loosen the filter element inside it!.... the sump does have some damage hiding under the plate reinforcing, odd thing is they don't match the dint in the filter... and there is lots of silicon on the inside of the obviously reused sump gasket.... more hmmmm Hate finding stuff like this... it leaves me wondering what the F is going on or gone on... Oh well since the magnets were all good I'll keep going lol First off remove the plate off it and fix the dints I did try and get a shot of the dints nothing major worst one was about 10mm deep but the camera just didn't show them... a bit of panel beating with a claw hammer on a wooden bench (I miss my workshop and tools lol) and a flap its ready Almost an hr later I have a CAD profile curticy of mates box he bought for an F-up at work lol At this point I decided it was time to go home given I'm going to be bending this with a cold chisel and hammer and vice lol did I mention I miss my tools and workshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Right finished the armour plating for the sump.... now a coat of paint and new filter and seal and I can thrash the trans to burn off the bad oil from the trans brakes/clutches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 All painted and on with a new filter and the right oil..... top up the water for the motor and half an hr of thrashing the truck around the yard (backing off well before the ends of the yard because of no brakes!) I've learned my mate was right the gears are coming back as the clutch bands burn off the bad oil, reverse was the worst 6000 rpm in reverse with beerly any movement at the start.... by the end it was good enough if I selected a gear it moved it.... it still isn't sitting me back in the seat so still alot of slippage but I can now identify the gears as the trans changes so thats one problem sorted Also got the self centre steering to work, was just a stone jamed in the centering direction of the steering control lever.... this is very cool, the neibours had a few cones set out in the yard for forklift training and I was able to scoot round in them... give the lever a flick back and the rear pops centre again As for the latest issues/bodges I've found I have found out whats wrong with the rear caliper (the one with 3 pads)....feel free to correct my assumption on this, but trials in southland must require more braking from the rear drivers side as it has been fitted with an IFS hilux caliper you know the ones with the 4 big pistons the ones that are normally used with vented disks lol its no wonder the pistons are popping out This is also the reason why I didn't bother to try and bleed the brakes.... I've got some spare solid disk calipers at home (in the scrap pile lol good thing I didn't get around to taking that lot to the scrappy!) so I'll grab that next time I'm home Found the fuel tank has a leak where the "knead-it" used to "weld" the filler neck on has come unstuck..... Now I've got it running the front CV/DS to gearbox case seal is leaking bad... probably the real reason why the trans was empty The auto choke on start up isn't working right on cold startup.... running real ruff and struggling And I have the engine check warning light on all the time, even when its warmed up and running Ran out of time to play on it so didn't look to see if the original OB2 plug is still there.... I hope so All the drama and rough state of the trans and motor has me considering if I'd be better with a new option.... seriously considering putting in a bid on an insurance right off car with a moderate k's toyota 2gr-fe and tip tronic trans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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