landroverfan001 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hi, I would love to hear any feedback you may have with my problem...it is a long story but will try to keep it as short as I can! Basically my freelander (04 plate) TD4 was playing up ... lumpy, losing power, knocking...I took it to a Landrover specialist who told me I needed 1 injector replacing, they did the work and told me when I went to pick it up that another injector may need changing, however it wasn't urgent and was so minor it didn't show up on the diagnostics. When I drove the car home (after paying for the new injector) I found the car to be exactly the same as before, I rung them and told them for them to tell me it was because another injector needed replacing (the one that was so minor it didnt show up) I took it back, they changed another injector...it worked fine...for 3 weeks and again after paying for the 2 new injectors it was again lumpy, no power, knocking on the underside of the car. I took it to be investigated, the injectors were sent away to be looked at. The report has come back that 3 of the injectors are faulty - including the 2 the garage changed 4-5 weeks ago, they have also put in MG injectors - which are faulty and not up to standard! This is going to cost me another £800 to replace the 3 injectors. Is there anything I can do to report the landrover specialist garage that replaced 2 injectors with faulty MG injectors? I have had the car 4 weeks since they were changed and now I am going to have to fork out another £800 to get this fixed. I cannot afford this and may have to get rid of my beloved freelander. Can anybody help with this issue, has this happened before...are Landrover Specialists allowed to put in MG injectors which are faulty (surely not!!) Any replies will be greatly appreciated, Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Bear in mind Land Rover, MG and Rover were all the same company at one time, fitting the same BMW M57 engine, the Freelander having the variable turbo. The injectors may well all be the same part but have different part numbers (Rover, MG, Land Rover, BMW, Bosch). It also depends what you asked / authorised them to do and what they then actually did. Were they supposed to be fitting new, genuine injectors, or some equivalent, or second hand, or recon, or what? It seems unlikely that all 4 injectors would go faulty, I suspect the fault is elsewhere and something simpler & cheaper, so in that respect they've failed to correctly diagnose the problem, however I'm not sure you can hold a garage accountable for that as most of them seem to just flange round changing bits & charging labour until the problem goes away when presented with something non-obvious or that they don't understand. If fitting new injectors hasn't actually changed the problem then not only is it unlikely they were the problem, it's also unlikely the new ones are the problem / faulty. Certainly I would not throw another £800 down the pan blindly. If you search back for TD4 issues in this forum you will find plenty of common, easily-checked, and CHEAPLY fixed issues that you can tick off your list before throwing more money around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangy35 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I have seen all four fail at the same time, it is not impossible. I have also seen them fail one buy one in a matter of weeks, extremely unhappy owner, was given the option to do them all in one go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I have seen all four fail at the same time, it is not impossible. Not impossible, but not likely, and by the sound of it not the case here - and I'd say given the potential to have thrown £1600 at the car and not fixed it, it's worth thinking about other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 A friend had a similar issue, injectors dying, turned out to be the injection pump disintegrating and filling the injectors with swarf -not on a BM engine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangy35 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Not impossible, but not likely, and by the sound of it not the case here - and I'd say given the potential to have thrown £1600 at the car and not fixed it, it's worth thinking about other options. I am all for the diffrent options dont get me wrong.....just mentioning it can happen and if it was not that I was involved I would swallow very hard on that statement myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangy35 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 There is no mention of a new fuel filter with the new injectors. No mention of low or high fuel pressure tests. No mention of fuel quality. Was a proper bleed off test done on the injectors. Also it seems what the real cause of your concern is has damaged the new injectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardcraney Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 My advice would be to have it taken to a specialist with land rovers diagnostic system, the computer Will be able to show low fuel pressure readings and fuel compensation for each cylinder, thus tracking the problem to the individual cylinder/injector that is faulty, if it is a faults with injectors of course. It would be a wise idea to change/check the low pressure pump and filter, also the injector wiring could also be at fault there is a repair kit available for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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