Anderzander Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Asinine questions coming up: I've been waiting to buy an x-defend gear stick lock for ages - and in the absence of Foundry getting any in I jumped at the chance to get one 2nd hand. Doing that meant I didn't realise I was missing the security nuts and the instructions. Getting it to fit has been an arse - the angle seems wrong in that when the main gear lever is pushed forward the tube cutouts really gouge into it. Anyhow what's happened is that the transfer nob lever just come off under that tension. It's left what must be an insert on the shaft. So three questions if I may : Can anyone recommend a glue to use to fix it back on ? Does the fact that the knob can be simply prised off by breaking the adhesive bond not make it useless ? Anyone any ideas as to why the angle seems so wrong ? I wouldn't have though moving the main lever on its spline would alter the angle at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Do you have the right one for your gearbox ? It should be straight for your gearbox. Are you putting the box in fifth first ? Have you removed the plastic stud that controls the movement of the two halves. If not, carefully remove it, put the two parts in place and Refit the stud in the hole that best suits. HTH Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Probably worth a look at some instructions! I remember the set up of the plastic peg being particularly important. As for the transfer lever coming off - part of the kit is a nut to stop this happening - as you say, pretty useless otherwise. There's also another security nut on the main gearstick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Anderzander, these may help you http://foundry4x4.co.uk/pdf/X%20Eng%20at%20Foundry%204x4%20X-DefendR380%20Instructions.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 Thank you everyone. It is definitely the R380 item. I have been putting it in 5th and I did remove the stud. I'll work through the instructions and see what happens. The gear knob coming off the (presumably) threaded insert has kind of put a spanner in the whole thing though. I need to bond that back on to be any use first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L835 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I bought an x-defend new, I now what you mean by the angles, sometimes its easier to use it in 3rd, and yes my knob fell off too! Wouldn't be without it though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 That's encouraging !! Any suggestions based on what you did to fix it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Smith Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I had a couple of goes moving the gear lever on it's splines before I was happy with the fit, you might need to adjust the transfer lever linkage too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The gear stick is mounted on a short splined shaft and can be fitted at a variety of angles. The X-Defend gearstick lock works best in the 'standard' orientation, though I know that people often have their gearsticks at different angles for one reason or another. It is worth noting that the original kit also comes with a security nut for the bottom of the gearstick, so this needs to be born in mind. HTH Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Thank you ! All of my set up is in the standard position - so to get a fit will require deviating from that. I'll pop a picture up or how it's pulled the knob off so you can see what I mean about needing to bond it back on and my concern about the adhesive strength of that being the limiting factor. I really appreciate all the help here. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 A new transfer knob is only a few quid Stephen, why muck about with the old. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I can't speak for the transfer box knob, but the main knob can be araldited back onto its mount which is left on the stick when it drops off - I guess the transfer box is similar. Thats worked for me for about 3 years now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L835 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I replaced my gear knob with one of these! Trying to find a screw on knob for the transfer lever if I can determine the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 A new transfer knob is only a few quid Stephen, why muck about with the old. Mo I may end up doing that Mo - but the reason I'm not jumping to it is twofold: the transfer know I have is pristine and has separated from an insert that is threaded and screws onto the shaft. So my concern is that if that call be pulled out of this one it perhaps can on any replacement ? and if thats the case a lock nut is pointless and I need to look into strong glues. I can't speak for the transfer box knob, but the main knob can be araldited back onto its mount which is left on the stick when it drops off - I guess the transfer box is similar. Thats worked for me for about 3 years now, Araldilte sounds like a good option then - thanks. I'll get some pictures and post them up - at the moment I'm considering enlarging the slot on one side of the tube that fits onto the gear lever so it more closely matches the angle the gear lever sits at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I may end up doing that Mo - but the reason I'm not jumping to it is twofold: the transfer know I have is pristine and has separated from an insert that is threaded and screws onto the shaft. So my concern is that if that call be pulled out of this one it perhaps can on any replacement ? and if thats the case a lock nut is pointless and I need to look into strong glues. When you buy the lock new it comes with two nuts, one which is a security nut is fitted in place of the nut holding the main gear lever on and the other is just a thin plain nut which fits under the transfer box knob. The thin nut that you put under the knob removes any strain on the knob and also stop the lock coming off. So you could stick the knob on with bluetac and it would make no difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 This picture stolen from the instructions shows what I mean, notice the nut is inside the lock so takes all pressure instead of your knob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ah-ha ! That's good info. Much clearer thank you. A half nut to find then and sort the angle mismatch out. Thank you Mr Wabbit ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 ... and just get a new knob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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