squaddiefox Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm looking for ideas, manufacturers or handy people. I want an external cage for a full body 92 range rover classic, or am external cage with protection bars for the outside like wings and roof etc. I'm not good with drawing/designing and I'm about 3500 miles away from my motor at the moment. I would like to compete so would need a compliant cage. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 P&P Will do you one no problem, it is where I got most of my components, fit is very, very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Mines a p&p but just a half international half external so probably no good for inspiration but there are loads of photos on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 You will need something internal (main hoop at least) for it to be MSA inspection proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squaddiefox Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm happy for full internal but would want some panel protection for the outside. If it was a defender I wouldn't be too bothered. I'm not too fussed about the rangie body work I just don't want to f it up too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Then you have main hoop and stays internal, the rest external, and jointed up through the roof -itis how I did mine, and P&P will be able to sell you a kit this way, with 2 sets of roof rails, windscreen bar and hoop and a rear hoop to take it down the rear most corners of the truck. I would say though, if you think you may ever do either a body lift or a bobtail then do it NOW, it gets annoying to have to redo all your work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squaddiefox Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Body lift is already done. That's why I'm looking for a cage now. Was yours bolt in or weld in? Do you have any pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I would say though, if you think you may ever do either a body lift or a bobtail then do it NOW, it gets annoying to have to redo all your work. Isn't that the truth! I had my internal hoop put further back so I could put the seat further back as I'm tallish and the rear diagonals moved forwards so I could bobtail, both make it hard work for the rear passengers, especially with the armrest there, but it's very infrequent I have any so they can walk or struggle I didn't want any more weight than I had to so the cage was the minimum possible to top the roof crushing if I rolled rather than the sort of cage where the cars expected to be on it's side every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I did most of the work myself, bringing it back to the chassis rails for main hoop, welded on outriggers for front hoop (the only way really) and again, outriggers for rear stays. Looks like Al's was a more bolt-in affair? I designed mine so it could be on it's head and not worry too much.... I will try and dig some photos out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squaddiefox Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Cheers buddy. Was looking for more external bars than ALS has. I have emailed pp. I wonder how much it will take to keep the other half occupied so she doesn't see what I'm doing until I've done it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squaddiefox Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Oh yeah, al, where did you get your cage from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Mine is p&p. I bought it complete as a bolt on cage for speed really, it would take me a long time to make a cage & I don't have facilities for tube work. It doesn't have to be tied to the chassis to stop the roof caving in as the seats are attached to the body if that makes sense but I did tie mine back to the chassis via the rock sliders at the front and middle hoop and the rear diagonals to the rear cross member (which also forms the rear bumper on the bobtail). Some people say swap for solid body mounts if your going to do this as the movement can fatigue the welds but mines been ok so far. I guess it depends how rigid it all is? I'm confident it would stop me being crushed in pretty much any off-road accident but obviously the car body may become misshapen. Actually who am I kidding, it's already misshapen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Ayup Pete, hope you are well. I would go for an internal B hoop with an external front as above but run tubes right along the gutters to the back, if you have a good wrap around rear bumper and rocksliders with tree bars and wide tyres you'be got most of the bodywork inbetween covered. And then what about making some tube wings for it to save the front? Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squaddiefox Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Aye will, not bad mate. Will be much easier to get stuff sorted when I'm back home again. This is what I was thinking. Extended bars to the back of the roof. I'm wanting a rear winch as well so I need to get some hands on get a tape measure out. Rock sliders are already fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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