tedsmart Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Hello, I've just replaced the rear seal on the LT230 and found the drive flange had a slight groove in it, so I replaced the drive flange for a bearmach drive flange which came with a dust cover for the seal, I have fitted it but am thinking that the mud shield may not have been a good idea, has anyone fitted one of these and did it pan out ok, seems to me that the drive flange is going to rub/heat up on the seal cover? Anyone any info on this. Thanks for any input. the mud shield in question is the one with the nut in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangy35 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 If the oil seal is installed properly and the mud shield is properly installed they should not have a problem rubbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedsmart Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Thanks for that, I'm sure they are installed correctly, although I've never installed one before! But my thinking is that when the drive flange is tightened up it is pulled on to the mud shield thus causing it to be an interference fit! It's hard to say whether this is the case, I wondered what the general feeling was towards these mud shields, are they good or do they cause problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's common to landrover and does the job okay. It spins stuff away from the seal as you drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedsmart Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Thanks again, it's my mind working over time, this being a bearmach thing I thought it would be a common upgrade to protect the seal, I thought it was a good idea that's why I installed it but after doing so it made me wonder whether this was a disco thing or later lt230 box design/upgrade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangy35 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 No, been there for a long time, use with confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailysleaze Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 For reference This is the mud shield for the front: And this for the rear: However, there is also a different set up which has a collar that is pressed onto the housing, rather than the flange. This was my 200Tdi. See the difference with a 300Tdi: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedsmart Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 This is what I was saying pic 2 of 4 shows the mud shield on the drive flange, and when put together on the drive shaft and the 30mm nyloc nut tightened up the mud shield is surely it going to spin on the drive flange and rub against the seal thus heating the seal and destroying it, my 300 Tdi lt230 has the dust cap as in pic 3 of 4, so now I have the dust shield as pic 3 of 4 and the mud shield as in pic 2 of 4. The mud shield sit below the dust shield. Is this correct? Thanks for any info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailysleaze Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 If you have pic 3, then you don't need the mud shield on the flange. If you have pic 4, then you do need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedsmart Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 At the moment I have both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 On my last one the seal seemed to keep failing - it may be coincidental but I binned the metal flange seal you have in that kit and replaced it with one that fits onto the outside of the casing. It maybe coincidental but I wasn't keen on that seal and it didn't leak once I'd got rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedsmart Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 I have now removed this mud shield, which I thought was a good idea to start with! And probably is, if installed correctly, and from what I've seen when looking for information about the mud shield, to install one correctly you have to knock the mud shield on to the drive flange, if you look closely at the Bearmach drive flange there's a small raised lip near the base of the mud shield, designed to hold the mud shield in place! If knocked in place and then fitted it would probably be okay? Hope this helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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