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What are those little nylon straps called - that have an eye on each end and are used to hold the first spools of winch rope onto the drum ?

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I only knew what they were from a Frogs Island video on splicing plasma rope when I refitted the winches on the horse trucks with plasma and got rid of the old wire ropes.

Great idea and much safer than a grub screw!

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I was given one by someone at a show - and was surprised (and pleased) how well it worked!

Si

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How does it work? I presume you thread turns 4 & 5 though it on the drum?

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That's the video, the plasma came in 30mtr lengths but only needed 15mtrs on the winch, did 2 out of a pack, got one left to do but it only had a new winch 3 months ago. The splicing went easier than I first thought it would.

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Neat, but I like to snare mine. I splice a loop a foot long in the end, put it through the fairlead, around the drum and back out, feed the hook through the loop and pull tight. Then we know that whatever daft stuff goes on the rope is around the drum, and it's a lot easier to remove for cleaning :)

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Neat, but I like to snare mine. I splice a loop a foot long in the end, put it through the fairlead, around the drum and back out, feed the hook through the loop and pull tight. Then we know that whatever daft stuff goes on the rope is around the drum, and it's a lot easier to remove for cleaning :)

Dont quite get that, do you have a pic or a diagram?

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He's effectively making a 'lasso' that is pulled tight round the drum ......

.....Does that not make it hard to spool it on ? As it'll be rotating around the drum ?

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Unless its a lasso that has 5 turns trapped inside it. but doesnt that put a lump in the spool?

I guess it shouldnt slip as there should be no load on the conventional end screw when theres enough turns on the drum.

Like this?

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I tried David B's way with the string, where you fed the rope through itself and tape to the drum. It held really well, but it was hell to remove to clean, so I tried snaring the drum. To take if off just I had to bash it a little with a hammer stale to loosen the loop, which shows that when it grips it is really on there.

The mile marker has no fixings so a nut is welded on as a lump to get it started. On the kingone tds and the kingone hydraulic I put a bit of rounded off bar in the rope hole. Once it has 'bitten' you take it down to three wraps without worry. I used to get it started with a wrap of soft rubber.

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I have a TDS and was wondering what to do with it - it's an old rope though so somewhat misshapen, which I think would make it a nightmare to try and splice .... Given that I haven't done it before.

My plan was to just tuck the end In the rope hole and use one of these nylon things to retain it.

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@ Idris - Only one lasso turn is enough?

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Seems to be. You have to get it the right way on the drum. One way it tightens and the other way it spins. We only ran the string and tape for two seasons, started in 2007, so it must have done five seasons on two winches. Infact, the rear has never seen anything else but a single wrap snare. You could try two though.

I had considered silicon rtv on the drum, with a wiggley line left to dry, as a gripper.

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It's like strong bootlace that is spliced into the end of the rope. Rope goes around the drum, through itself and then the string wraps around the drum and only needs electrical taping on. Call it a snare with a thin leader?

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I spliced my first rope on Saturday following that video and it all went fairly easily touch wood.I wouldn't be scared of giving it a go, I even did mine sat on the sofa watching telly.

Will.

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Andy at ruftraks makes the retainers and calls them plasma locks

He sent me one for Xmas and I just fitted it the other day

Bit of a faff seeing as I never used a retainer before, but if it's useful I'm happy

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And yeah regards the splicing I read the method the other day, now I'm splicing everything in sight!

Made a couple of extension lines from old ropes, well happy :D

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