western Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 fully sealed led lights are fine, like these wipac versions http://www.paddockspares.com/red-stop-tail-lamp-led.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMB Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I may be mistaken, but believe that only the headlights and other lights with a focussed beam are E-marked or required to be E-marked. Certainly a quick check of my spare bulb set only showed the headlamp Halogens carrying an E-mark. If that is the general case, then under construction and use regulations, LEDs can be used as bulb replacements except in headlamps. The only issue may be light output, though the construction and use regulations used to specify maximum wattage for tail and brake lights rather than lumens. If I feel particularly nerdy tomorrow, I may take a tail light bulb out of the Skoda tomorrow and inspect it - it has the original manufacturers fitted bulbs in all the lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I may be mistaken, but believe that only the headlights and other lights with a focussed beam are E-marked or required to be E-marked. Certainly a quick check of my spare bulb set only showed the headlamp Halogens carrying an E-mark. If that is the general case, then under construction and use regulations, LEDs can be used as bulb replacements except in headlamps. The only issue may be light output, though the construction and use regulations used to specify maximum wattage for tail and brake lights rather than lumens. If I feel particularly nerdy tomorrow, I may take a tail light bulb out of the Skoda tomorrow and inspect it - it has the original manufacturers fitted bulbs in all the lights. That's not what the man from the ministry of transport told me. I was told not LED's at all into a tungston lamp holder. Aparently the colours are wrong >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMB Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 That's not what the man from the ministry of transport told me. I was told not LED's at all into a tungston lamp holder. Aparently the colours are wrong >>>> Not doubting that's what you were told, but that sounds and smells like bullsh**. Typical of government minor official - caught out without a definitive answer and yet needed to sound as if he knew. I defy anyone to tell the diference between LED and tungsten lighting when fitted behind a red tail/stop light or amber indicator filter. The whole point of a filter is to only let the required colour light out. You can even buy LED bulbs of equivalent colour temperature to tungsten (2700K) to fit behind clear lenses if you are prepared to look around. PS - no E marking on the factory fitted tail light of my Skoda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffernutter Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I think the issue, and I could be wrong (just ask my wife ) is not the colour but the lens is designed for the beam,filament placing etc. of a filament lamp, an LED will have a different focus and that may be an issue. Just a thought! Cheers Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I think the issue, and I could be wrong (just ask my wife ) is not the colour but the lens is designed for the beam,filament placing etc. of a filament lamp, an LED will have a different focus and that may be an issue. Just a thought! Cheers Peter I wouldn't have thought that "focus" would have come into side/ tail lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Loads of people fit RDX LED side, tail / brake lights which completely replace the old light units, are E marked, sealed and being the same dimensions as the originals are virtually indistinguishable unless examined closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Barrett Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 fully sealed led lights are fine, like these wipac versions http://www.paddockspares.com/red-stop-tail-lamp-led.html These are interesting Western. Have you fitted them? Does anyone know if the LED indicator version would cause the fast flashing issue you get when you put in LED bulbs on a 1986 Ninety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 You get a new flasher relay too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The Rdx relay is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I have the Wipac versions in my 86 90 along with the adjustable relay with no issues. The only thing I did find was that I had to re-adjust the relay the first time I plugged the trailer electrics in as it wouldn't flash the trailer indicators, once altered it was fine with or without the trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 These are interesting Western. Have you fitted them? Does anyone know if the LED indicator version would cause the fast flashing issue you get when you put in LED bulbs on a 1986 Ninety? No, I still have the standard lights, but have been thinking about changing to led units. the flasher relay gets replaced with one suitable & adjustable to get the flash rate correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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