rrr47 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Have any members seen or used one of these? My local tyre place wants £10.00 per wheel to swap tyres around. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131415402927?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Yes, they work well, but you need a different bar for alloy wheels. You don't actually need one however, I do mine simply using a hi lift jack to break the bead and a couple of tyre levers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I've used one but with a pneumatic piston that breaks the seal underneath then holds the wheel in place on top when your working with a bar. Be careful with what tyre sizes they work with, I took some standard sized 4x4 tyres off and the machine was stressed to say the least. Check wheel sizes too you sometimes need different cones. Still a fair amount of manual work and you still have to take the wheel to be balanced or buy a balancing machine. Those with the spirit level where the wheel is horizontal are better than I expected so long as you take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydie Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It should be okay on steel rims - but it would need to be securely bolted down - but I don't think you will have any luck if you have the early style Disco "double bead" alloy rims, the only thing that seems to be able to remove the tyre off these is a machine for truck tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertspark Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sshtOLCld1I https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tulowALcsQc Seriously https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OF7ibM8JSgM Considered buying one but not yet Need the alloy tyre changing bar too if you intend on doing alloys without damaging them http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/171779017235?nav=SEARCH Not sure how well it does real steel belted tyres though ( may need the first video) And a bubble balance http://m.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?isRefine=true&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=bubble+balancer&_sacat=0&_trksid=m570.l1313 And a selection of balance weights plus pliers (if non alloy), alloy weights stick on the inside of the rim (not sure why you could not use the same principle with non alloy .... I know it was a joke when I first put my wolf rims on.... Tyre man was a bit shocked with the amount of lead required ..... Then I drove out and saw all the lead flying off in my wing mirrors Rob Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 See the last post on this thread http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=47119&page=3# for my creation. It's vehicle mounted, so no issues holding it still, and soooo much easier than wrestling with tyre levers on the floor. Tip: Buy some tyre soap ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 £44 for a machine to change Land Rover tyres.....I'd be surprised if it lasted long enough to do all 5. I use the Hi-lift/tyre lever method, but I don't do it very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrr47 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Thanks for the comments, I have tried fitting the tyres by hand, looks easy on you tube but I just could not do it. I have 2 tyres to swap around and so I feel that the cost is not £44.00 but £24.00. Will let members know how good/bad the tyre changer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 £44 for a machine to change Land Rover tyres.....I'd be surprised if it lasted long enough to do all 5. I use the Hi-lift/tyre lever method, but I don't do it very often. It's a shame there's nothing about the £100 mark, better, but not industrial standard. G. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwhacker Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Hi. I bought one similar to that one with the same idea as yourself. It needs bolted to the ground, make sure you have plenty of room to walk around it. The bead breaker part was useless and bent, use a hi-lift and your Land Rover to break the beads but take care! When the wheel and tyre are held down on the center post use washing liquid between wheel and tyre rim it does help! Get a length of metal pipe to extend the bar/lever bit, I found mine a bit short and made longer it gave better leverage. I'm a weakling! I have used it mostly on steel rims and it's fine but you need to protect an alloy rim with heavy rubber under the bar/ lever bit when moving around the wheel,I used an old rad hose cut up. It paid for it's self in no time, and rigging it up on to a receiver hitch is a great idea. You'll need an air supply to seat the tyre on the wheel. I got inner patches and a few other bits to do punctures as well. A week of changing tyes with it and you'll look like Charles Atlas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepé le Pew Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I have one of these in the back of the 88". https://www.boab.biz/acatalog/copy_of_TYRE_REPAIR_KITS-1.html Works very well and doesn't take up much space. I must say that i paid less than what it is advertised for on the Boab site. I think it was in the region of 150 euro's complete with 2 tyre levers and the canvas bag. Like this but without the tyre repair stuff. https://www.boab.biz/acatalog/TYRE_REPAIR_PRODUCTS-1.html Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertspark Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Eric how does it work with alloys? Like my tools to do a few jobs and not vehicle specific as life changes Thanks Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwhacker Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Hi. Not meaning to sound cheeky but have a google for tyre bead breaker there is a load of stuff. You could more than likely make one a lot cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I've had one of those for years. They work fine, but... You need to bolts them down. You need to reinforce the bead breaker. LR steel wheel hold a bead like no other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepé le Pew Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Eric how does it work with alloys? Like my tools to do a few jobs and not vehicle specific as life changes Thanks Rob To be honest i only used it on steel rims Rob. But a couple of rim protectors are easy to make or very cheap to buy. Tyrepliers themselves say its no problem to use it with alloys. Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I also have one, as said breaker is poor but them my tyres just lift th S1 when I use a high lift. The lever works really well putting them on or off but needs technique Mine would work better if I bolted it down instead of using the dirt to hold it! Odd thing, I changed four tyres on my car and did not balence them, no vibration at all at any speed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I have exactly the item asked about. Bead breaker bent the first time I used it.... I use a hi lift.... but it sometimes takes a few applications around the rim. ... I bolt mine to two chunks of crossed timber when I want to use it and one leg is longer to park a land rover on to secure it..... I mainly use mine for steel rims and mud tyres. The taller the sidewall the easier it is to remove the tyre. I bought the bar for alloys which works well. And have done a few car tyres but its hard work with low profile ones!! I can now remove and fit four tyres in about an hour. The biggest problem for me is I'm 8 miles from the nearest tyre fitter. And four wheel and tyres won't fit in the pick up. So it means two trips. .. and paying. ... this thing has pd for itself over and over again. .. for the cost its also worth getting a tub of tyre soap and a brush. .... I bought a bag of 50 valves too...... they've nearly gone! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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