ronnie_rotten Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I have done a bit of s search and haven't found a definitive answer so here's my question... I have ascertained that this vin: salldba572a628811 falls into the era of metal head dowels, but does that mean it is 15P, or is that not necessarily the case? The vin decoder suggests a build date of 29/11/01. I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy this truck, but I'd be happier knowing it has the 15P on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I think 15P is 2002 on wards, so it will have an NNN ECU and external spill/return rail on the outside of the cylinder head. I understand the build date for early 15P's could be pre 2002 as that's when they were built not sold! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie_rotten Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Thanks Steve.Yeah I read about the 2002 model being where the change happened, but I won't be in front of the motor til next week and I don't have the engine number yet, only the vin.I'm hoping it's the late engine, as I'm scared enough of the TD5 as it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Mine is 2001 registered - but is a 2002 model year - with the 15p engine and the revised dash etc etc..... So it seems very likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie_rotten Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 What exactly is entailed in the revised dash. They didn't take out all the squeaks and rattles did they? I'd miss those... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 No ! It still squeaks. It's the one with the centre console. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie_rotten Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Aha! That should be easy to spot then. So, if there's a centre console it's a 15P? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie_rotten Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Right. Ive found that my vin sits within the range that would have originally had plastic dowels, but the workshop manual states need to be replaced with steel. Earlier vin must NOT or the head can crack. Does that give further clues as to whether 10p or 15p? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm actually not sure - but what I would say is, buy it on the strength of the individual vehicle, not the factory spec. I have a 15p 90 CSW now and it's fine - before that I had a 10p 90 HT and it was brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie_rotten Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 I know what you mean Anderzander. I'm not chasing the later engine for any reason other than trying to avoid potential future expense. I'm already very keen on the motor, it's pretty tidy and has desirable extras like tree sliders and a pto driven winch. It's just passed a doe (irish commercial roadworthiness test) and is not an expensive truck. But there lies the problem- if something seems to be too good to be true... I can afford (barely!) the couple of grand for a working machine, but I won't have funds left to put right serious engine issues that might be lurking below the tidy exterior. Maybe I'm getting overly hung up on the 10p/15p thing, but being as it's seemingly right on the changeover, it's hard not to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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