Les Brock Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Posted this here as its not specific to one model.. I DO seem to have a problem with the box 200Tdi Discovery dox in a defender (unless it was a flippin v8 one) bought as kit with eveything to fit the 200 so pulling away from stopped it shifts up through the gears fine 1/2/3rd or so I think, stop at the end of the road, but get out pull away and I now have no upshift - 3000 revs and feels like its stuck in 2nd if I ease off nothing happens ! Truck undrivable at mo :( Dont know if something has shifted on the kickdown that I'm unaware of, I'm no pretty much nowt about auto's Any pointers, ideas, or will it be Land Rover adjusting tool no 1 to the flippin thing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Is there enough fluid in it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yep, Checked and double checked, level ground thu the gears and back into park and check all ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Check the kick down cable isn't seized, if it is seized in the 'pulled' position, then it will think you have your foot hard on the floor all the time. Could have got snagged/melted...? As above though, fluid is pretty critical, is it clear in colour? Metallic flakes, grey/browness is all bad news. How many miles done since fitted? Tried it in reverse? Tried it in '1'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Checked the cable all is ok you can feel it going into the kick downposition. Miles since fluid and filter change, 600 perhaps, I have done one fluid change since, given I thought the new fluid might dilodge some gunk so intended on changing it a few times to be on the safe side. Now I'm on the outer most hole of the kickdown bracket which as in further out from the pivot point gives the greatest movement of the kickdown cable.which could be making the box think i'm on fullthottle all the time ? perhaps the bracket has moved, although I seem the remember it had locating pins ! Has anyone a pic of a 200tdi kick downset up for me to compare loactions of against Pulling away slowly from a stand still it all seems to shift properly, when I pull away to get up to speed it get to 25 its doing 3k revs and nothing shifts up ? Reverse again is all fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Sounds like fluid and filter change time again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Try moving the kickdown, I have mine on the inner hole. I did run it one further out for a while but it was a bit lively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'll give that a try tomorrow, as I said mines on the outer hole this would give it a huge amount of movement compared to the inner hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Bowie - Fluid is clean clean with no discouloration or sludge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Woodward Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I have my cable on the inner hole also, this gives the softest upshift. I had it on the 3rd hole to start with and the shift point was very high. New fluid does tend to clean out all the muck, this gets lodged in the governor and the box will be slow to shift out of 1st until it warms up. I changed my fluid 3 times and eventually had to remove the governor and clean it out. It's been fine since. My box had been stood for a long time and I've no idea how many miles it has done. There's always niggles to sort out when the builds done though. Just when you think you've finished!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 The set up for kickdown cable is with cable connected operate accelerator pedal so that you get the kickdown "jump" just prior to the accelerator pedal getting to its limit of travel . There should be a crimped metal tag on the inner cable to limit the cable going back into the box .This is with having already adjusted the acc cable so that it is almost at full travel when pedal hits floor stop , so that you are not using the cable as the limit stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Thanks for the relpies so far, Was raining a tad yesterday so hopefully I can get on it today I'll post up how I get on ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydie Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Errr I assume that you have installed the correct torque converter - the one you installed, if it came with the second hand autobox could be for a V8 which has a totally different converter, same goes for the governor - it has different springs in the centrifugal control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 Ok I'll fess up here as well.......... ......someone "may" have forgotten to disengage the underdrive after not realizing it was in after someone must have engaged it ........................ disengage works fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Is there a case for having a lock-out for when in hi-range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Nice. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I feel your pain Les, I've just spent almost a week of my life trying to solve why my heated rear window continually bows fuses. Last night I found out why; someone, when putting the rear door back on, decided to use the wiring as a hinge gasket...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Oops ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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