FridgeFreezer Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 OK not a part-number request but definitely requires some ninja anoraking having picked up a slow puncture on our travels the tyre shop have discovered there's a tube fitted... now BFG's as far as I'm aware are not designed for tubes so I'd like to remove the tube, but I'm not sure what the rims are. Can anyone tell me? I believe they're 1-ton / HCPU rims possibly ANR1534: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Can you see an extra bit rolled in just inside where the bead sits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Right, just been for a moist wander to the tyre shop, rims ARE stamped ANR1534 and TSD turned up the frankly brilliant weapons-grade-anoraking thread "Fvckwit's Cool fizzin' Rivet countin', Monumentally Bell-ended, Anorakin' Buyers Guide to Super-Hereto Deep-Dish, Forward Control, One Ton, 130, Rims & Wheels" which shows detail of the rim form, which I can confirm is what I've got (screenshot showing example): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Rivets? Tube type. I'd have thought. But I thought BFGs could run with tubes? G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Those are indeed not tubeless, they don't have that tyre securing extra bulge on either side, and they are riveted together which will not hold air. But I'd suggest through personal experience that buying some proper Agri-grade tubes that are thicker makes the world of difference when running tubes in tubeless style tyres (like the BFG's) Have for some years now run tubes in both my 33"s and my 35" Krawlers, both of which are tubeless design, with very low pressures for long periods of time without a single problem. But with the cheap thin tubes that people normally put into 7.50's well I've had lots of punctures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Yep , definitely tubed type Jon , the tubeless bead seat is quite visible on tubeless type . Tubes should be fine in your tubeless tyres , just make sure all the stickers and glue residue is removed on the inside cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Thanks guys, that's a bu99er as I've therefore got the combination of tube-type rims (I've looked it up on the catalogue site now: ANR1534 WHEEL-STEEL ROAD, PRIMED, RIVETED, TUBED, 6.5L X 16, WITH HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION) with tubeless type tyres.Possibly the answer is ANR4583PM - WHEEL-STEEL ROAD, PRIMED, TUBELESS, WELDED, '6.5J X 16"', WITH HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION (Wolf rims) but those are "wrong" for the age of vehicle. Or maybe agri tubes as Soren suggests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Since some time in the mid-Td5 run the 'standard' Land Rover rims are now tubeless. If you can find a set of new take offs from a modern vehicle they would do the job. A coat of olive drab can make them suit. However they are only 5.5" wide, so only really any good for 7.50 tyres - if you want to run larger 235's for example then the 6.5" wolf rims are your best bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Looks like one wheel has a tube, the spare has a tube, the other 3 don't have tubes in Short-term the flat one is getting a new tube, long-term we'll probably get a set of tubeless Wolf rims to make life easier - don't fancy being stuck on a trip having the argument with some foreign version of Kwik-Fit with mismatched rims/tyres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I agree about using HD tubes, even in tube tyres I got flats when using normal tubes and no problems with HD tubes. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Band a set of TDCI rims. Still, I dont see a problem with putting a tube in a tubeless tyre. I forever ran that myself. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Webster Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Where do you get agri-style HD tubes from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casperboat Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Band a set of TDCI rims. Still, I dont see a problem with putting a tube in a tubeless tyre. I forever ran that myself. Daan Mine has Toyo Open Country tyres with tubes fitted, never been an issue though the tyres say tubeless and make no mention of being suitable for tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Still, I dont see a problem with putting a tube in a tubeless tyre. I forever ran that myself. I once borrowed a 200tdi Disco from a friend, that had (unknown to me) just recently had tubes fitted in the BFG MT it was shod with. In monday morning traffic, in the middle lane of the M4, while travelling near the speed limit (not saying which side), the tube in the offside rear wheel failed suddenly. As the tyre was undamaged up to that point, there was no warning at all. It took me all three lanes and the hard shoulder to gather it up. I have no idea how I didn't hit anything. I have no idea how it stayed upright. I can't help but think it would have been even nastier on a tube type rim, with nothing at all helping the bead stay in place. It's not the only blowout I've ever experienced, but it was the most exiting and I don't want to try it again. I wouldn't run tubes without a good reason, especially on anything that might travel large distances at high speeds, and the price difference between 4 tubes and 4 wolf rims isn't even close to being a good one for my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Where do you get agri-style HD tubes from? I Bought them here: http://www.allterraintyres.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1095_1263_1296 I use 10 x 16 inner tubes. To reply to TSD; Ok, there may be instances were an inner tube went wrong, but given the situation of fridge with tubeless tyres on non tubeless rims, which is illegal, I'd say fitting a tube is an improvement. I personally run tubeless tyres (simex), with tubes on a tubeless rim. This in my experience is the best way of keeping a tyre seated on the rim while offroading at low pressures (short of bead locks). I suppose the risk is them running hot while driving at speed with too low pressures, then blow out. Also, the correct size is important. I suppose a blow out has never happened to me in 24 years of driving my landrover, and that's why I dont worry about it. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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