ronnie_rotten Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Was discussing this with a guy earlier, until what year did rangies have one rear damper forward facing and the other backwards, and for the love of god, WHY??!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyadawson Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Don't know the date, but I was talking with a chap who had a rolling chassis on show on the London 2 Brighton, and he said they changed it when they added the rear anti-roll bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie_rotten Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 That's a start! Any idea why they were set up that way? As well as looking odd I can't any advantages. Haven't noticed it on any other motor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Was the sway bar an option? mine is an 89 with shocks facing forward and no sway bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 For the fuel filler one side and the exhaust the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I don't know the answer to either of your questions, but I always thought both shocks went forward when the four door came out? As an aside, modern hilux has one shock forward one shock rearward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW8IZR Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I As an aside, modern hilux has one shock forward one shock rearward Indeed they are although the RR and the Hilux dont face the same way as each other.. On the RR I had always 'imagined' it was for some kind of torque reaction or more likely removal of some unfortunate resonance. It would be really nice to have a look at the designers old notepads. There could be a fascinating technical reason or maybe: diary entry 1 October 1971 : today drew shock on back axle in wrong place, cant be bothered doing it again..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I know it survived a few years as a friend had an early one, but I can't remember what year it was other than early 70's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW8IZR Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 The axle tube on my 90 had this setup, it was originally from a 76 two door. (edit) now I think about it my other RR two door was the same and that was a 76 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulliemam Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I guess it is around 1985, I got a 84' range and it has still the "old" type one forward one backwards. I don’t know the reason ether... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie_rotten Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 I like the idea of the designer messing up the drawing and saying 'sod it, nobody will notice anyway...' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range Rover Blues Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 The asymetrical damper set up was intended to absorb any torsional tramp in the rear end. The original prototypes had the trailing link brackets even higher on the axle and rear-end tramp was noticeable, the dampers are designed to stop this, Rover weren't the only company to do things like this and it was standard industry practice for a time. The rear axle was changed just before production which would have reduced torsional tramp as a by-product. The dampers were changed roughly when they stopped holding the dampers on with split pins and I think it was when the axles were "metricated" in the 80's. the diffs got bigger bearings and the propshafts got beefed up with bigger UJs, I think it coincides with EFi but this was before any of mine were built so I think of this period as "the dark ages", when BL were still stealing Land Rover's profits to build things like the Metro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 The asymetrical damper set up was intended to absorb any torsional tramp in the rear end. The original prototypes had the trailing link brackets even higher on the axle and rear-end tramp was noticeable, the dampers are designed to stop this, Rover weren't the only company to do things like this and it was standard industry practice for a time. The rear axle was changed just before production which would have reduced torsional tramp as a by-product. The dampers were changed roughly when they stopped holding the dampers on with split pins and I think it was when the axles were "metricated" in the 80's. the diffs got bigger bearings and the propshafts got beefed up with bigger UJs, I think it coincides with EFi but this was before any of mine were built so I think of this period as "the dark ages", when BL were still stealing Land Rover's profits to build things like the Metro Yup, you've got it right there. Despite the bizarre electrical design and built-in rust, I've persevered with my Rangie because of the superb engineering, especially the suspension. Mine is an '83 and while it has the original "fore-and-aft" shocks it oddly enough also has holes in the chassis for the later set-up. This is a carbied model, with metric axles and brakes with split pins on the rear shocks. You're right with the "dark ages" comment; it's as if they were making the cars out of whatever was handy for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range Rover Blues Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 it's as if they were making the cars out of whatever was handy for a few years. They were still doing that when my soft dash was built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 They were still doing that when my soft dash was built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW8IZR Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 They were still doing that when my soft dash was built. To be fair I kept my RR running using bits from lots of cars as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 My 1983 110 also had the fore and aft facing shocks on the rear axle so guessing change over is about mid 80s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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