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What do people think of this? Considering buying it but worried the non originality will affect its value

Daihatsu 2.8 and standard series axles instead of forward control axles

£3200 is what they are aaking

What do people think?

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Hi

I do not know about the price, but they are getting rare, axels do pop up from time to time, in the autumn there was a set for sale here in DK i think they where 300£ engine wise it should be possible to change as to a fourpot series thing,but if it was 6 pot wich some of them was then it is not so easy to find a good engine, given the fact that there was only about 2500 ever made it is rare.

Ole

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Do you have any axle pic's ? , as it's likely to have ENV or Salisbury which are a wider track than the std Series , The front panel where the HL's are looks to be a IIA from the HL position . Another part which is often missing / bodged is the gear linkage housing . The steering box is another FC only item - different length column iirc

There have been a couple go through Ebay lately at around £2.5 k un restored and/or in bits

cheers

Steveb

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Thanks all. As with Ross I thought it looked a bit short, partly the reason I posted!

Although it is a nice looking thing, and would actually do the job I want it to do just fine I think it is too much of a bitsa in terms of holding its value/being able to shift on at a later date.

Steve you are right about the headlight position too, the higher headlights are from a IIa.

Back to the drawing board!

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I have asked for more pictures but don't have any at the moment.

He said that he bought it from someone in Yorkshire, but didn't mention how long ago

Looking at the MOT history it has hardly done any miles in the last 5 years

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Doesn't look a bad little truck for the money.

I'd go as far as to say that at £3200 it's not bad value either. A low offer of £2,900 or £3k would probably secure it, and I reckon you'd be doing well to lose money on it.

It appears to be (mostly) a full IIA FC cab which has value on its own, and if the chassis and mechanicals are good there's no reason it would be worth any less than £3k should you choose to sell it in a few years time.

I'd be tempted myself of funds allowed.

It does bear some resemblance to the first factory prototype, although the body does appear to sit a few inches lower on the chassis.

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Axle wise it may well be standard SWB units, possibly with bigger brakes fitted.

Worth noting that early IIA trucks came out of the factory with Rover axles front and rear, with an ENV on the back quickly becoming standard fit, with ENV's front and rear from late '64 to the end of production. All at the same track width as the standard 109 of the time.

The wide track ENV axle was only fitted to the IIB forward control.

It's likely a standard steering box too, again the early IIA FC's also used the same part, with the longer column and lower ratio arriving later in production.

Depending on intended use for the thing I'd be looking at perhaps fitting a set of Disco axles to increase the track, and perhaps look at a set of springs that would allow it to sit a little higher, along with a PAS conversion and building a rear body in similar fashion to the factory prototype.

The end result would no doubt be pretty capable, along with serving a more than practical use.

There's my two cents as it were.

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Looks like a homebuilt attempt at the 88fc which IIRC was only ever built as engineering exercise , it would likely be very interesting to drive , as even the 11a version was very front heavy under braking , and the 11b had the wider env axles to try and improve stability ,

the 109 and later110 were both basically the nc chassis with a raised rail above and then a chassis extension bolted on the front to carry the front of the cab . the early 11a had a very complicated and somewhat temperamental gear linkage the later 11b had a more reliable and simpler setup as used on many commercial fc vehicles . As previous poster the steering box is a specialised ( unobtanium) FC item . I would say its only worth what the right buyer might splurge on it , no real relationship to what a gen FC would sell for . HTSH

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It's an 88" wheelbase. I assume it dates from the same time as the IIA FC development, so could be running either the early IIA FC box (a lower ratio, but not as low as later ones) or a standard series box.

Apparently they would also have offered them on 9.00x16's to special order.

The main killer for the project was that it would have been in pretty much direct competition with the standard 109.

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  • 3 years later...
33 minutes ago, Motorsimon2005 said:

Can’t remember putting it on eBay, maybe we did, any way sold it today for 4500, 

Was a long while ago so could have been anywhere! Good work. I bought a 110 hi cap tipper in the end

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