L19MUD Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 What do people think of this? Considering buying it but worried the non originality will affect its value Daihatsu 2.8 and standard series axles instead of forward control axles £3200 is what they are aaking What do people think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Hi I do not know about the price, but they are getting rare, axels do pop up from time to time, in the autumn there was a set for sale here in DK i think they where 300£ engine wise it should be possible to change as to a fourpot series thing,but if it was 6 pot wich some of them was then it is not so easy to find a good engine, given the fact that there was only about 2500 ever made it is rare. Ole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Do you have any axle pic's ? , as it's likely to have ENV or Salisbury which are a wider track than the std Series , The front panel where the HL's are looks to be a IIA from the HL position . Another part which is often missing / bodged is the gear linkage housing . The steering box is another FC only item - different length column iirc There have been a couple go through Ebay lately at around £2.5 k un restored and/or in bits cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I'm pretty damn certain that isn't a Land Rover FC2B, simply because it's on a 88" chassis. Google HDA702J rover, to see several returns. It might, very slightly might, be a development version, but it's more likely to be someone's 'good idea'. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 That's interesting David , it never occurred to me to google the reg. Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Page 2 of this S2C Forum thread has some pictures that may prove interesting to the OP, Page 1 has an exploded parts diagram of the chassis, and some brochure extracts. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I thought it looked rather short in the pictures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Thanks all. As with Ross I thought it looked a bit short, partly the reason I posted! Although it is a nice looking thing, and would actually do the job I want it to do just fine I think it is too much of a bitsa in terms of holding its value/being able to shift on at a later date. Steve you are right about the headlight position too, the higher headlights are from a IIa. Back to the drawing board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 ...I recall someone in the Breckland LROC many years ago talking of building an 88 WB FC , I wonder if this is it ? Are there any more pic's ? cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 I have asked for more pictures but don't have any at the moment. He said that he bought it from someone in Yorkshire, but didn't mention how long ago Looking at the MOT history it has hardly done any miles in the last 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslandroverman Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Doesn't look a bad little truck for the money. I'd go as far as to say that at £3200 it's not bad value either. A low offer of £2,900 or £3k would probably secure it, and I reckon you'd be doing well to lose money on it. It appears to be (mostly) a full IIA FC cab which has value on its own, and if the chassis and mechanicals are good there's no reason it would be worth any less than £3k should you choose to sell it in a few years time. I'd be tempted myself of funds allowed. It does bear some resemblance to the first factory prototype, although the body does appear to sit a few inches lower on the chassis. Axle wise it may well be standard SWB units, possibly with bigger brakes fitted. Worth noting that early IIA trucks came out of the factory with Rover axles front and rear, with an ENV on the back quickly becoming standard fit, with ENV's front and rear from late '64 to the end of production. All at the same track width as the standard 109 of the time. The wide track ENV axle was only fitted to the IIB forward control. It's likely a standard steering box too, again the early IIA FC's also used the same part, with the longer column and lower ratio arriving later in production. Depending on intended use for the thing I'd be looking at perhaps fitting a set of Disco axles to increase the track, and perhaps look at a set of springs that would allow it to sit a little higher, along with a PAS conversion and building a rear body in similar fashion to the factory prototype. The end result would no doubt be pretty capable, along with serving a more than practical use. There's my two cents as it were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Looks like a homebuilt attempt at the 88fc which IIRC was only ever built as engineering exercise , it would likely be very interesting to drive , as even the 11a version was very front heavy under braking , and the 11b had the wider env axles to try and improve stability , the 109 and later110 were both basically the nc chassis with a raised rail above and then a chassis extension bolted on the front to carry the front of the cab . the early 11a had a very complicated and somewhat temperamental gear linkage the later 11b had a more reliable and simpler setup as used on many commercial fc vehicles . As previous poster the steering box is a specialised ( unobtanium) FC item . I would say its only worth what the right buyer might splurge on it , no real relationship to what a gen FC would sell for . HTSH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 What wheelbase is that prototype Das ? It also appears to have std. Series rims and 7.50's ? That suggests it may have a std. series transfer box gearset . cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslandroverman Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's an 88" wheelbase. I assume it dates from the same time as the IIA FC development, so could be running either the early IIA FC box (a lower ratio, but not as low as later ones) or a standard series box. Apparently they would also have offered them on 9.00x16's to special order. The main killer for the project was that it would have been in pretty much direct competition with the standard 109. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Interesting thread! Lots of info that I had no idea about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Indeed , ta Das , I do think the FC could have been made more of , maybe with a bit of engineering to up the payload. All very interesting history. Cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorsimon2005 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 On 2/10/2016 at 7:32 PM, L19MUD said: Interesting thread! Lots of info that I had no idea about Where did you see it for sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorsimon2005 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Any one still on the thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 Sorry I really can't remember. It was on ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorsimon2005 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, L19MUD said: Sorry I really can't remember. It was on ebay Can’t remember putting it on eBay, maybe we did, any way sold it today for 4500, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, Motorsimon2005 said: Can’t remember putting it on eBay, maybe we did, any way sold it today for 4500, Was a long while ago so could have been anywhere! Good work. I bought a 110 hi cap tipper in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorsimon2005 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, L19MUD said: Was a long while ago so could have been anywhere! Good work. I bought a 110 hi cap tipper in the end The interest in it was overwhelming, we sold it at Newbury jumble, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I snapped a couple of pics of it at Newbury. Also saw this one, in a more regular length. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 The Defender screen and cab look good on there . Did you take a peek underneath to see what engine/box it has ? Looks to be on SOA parabolics at the front . cheers Steve b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Purple one is on coils, if it’s the same one I poked my head under at the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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