PaulSmorshuns Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 My first post here, so hello folks! I've recently bought a 1994 110 300tdi, having previously owned a 90 of the same age for about 5 years. There are lots of things I like about this particular 110, but also lots of reasons for me to be asking you lot for advice!First up, the jack that came with the 110 is (I think) the standard manufacturer's one... a flat foot or ground plate, plus a long post/screw thingy that does the actual lifting, plus a ratchet handle (except the handle is missing). Apart from the missing handle I'm also concerned about the state of the main part of the jack, as it's slightly buckled or twisted in one place. I've chucked a small bottle jack in the back to cover me for now, but, long story short, what jack should I buy? I'm usually a fairly 'vanilla' driver, but the 110 is lifted and on quite aggressive tyres, and I do intend to do more green-laning when I'm better set up for it. So I guess I want something practical for the odd tyre change but with a bit of extra capacity for entry-level off road stuff. Is a £55 Clarke farm jack from Machine Mart the right sort of thing to be looking at? Is it worth spending more? What accessories are must-haves? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwakers Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 look in the scrap yards or on ebay for the factory jack for a discovery or a rangerover.. they are a bottle jack with a curved saddle for the axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 or buy a 2 or 3 tonne rated trolley jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I bought a 10T bottle jack, sound like over kill but it goes up with finger pressure I also have a jack foot that's a foot square for soft ground, it lives under the seat and takes up no space but it's been very handy on many occasions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I prefer a bottle jack as well. I have a biiiig trolly jack but it's a right pain in the arse so hardly use it. Farm/hilift jacks are handy recovery tools but not that safe for jacking cars to change wheels ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 My preference for a jack in the car is the Disco bottle jack mentioned above. I've got a big trolley jack for the workshop too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Disco/RRC/RR P38 bottle jacks are the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 +1 for bottle jack with a saddle, if you have the chassis type jack or farm jack, they are very useful for some things. Changing a wheel isn't one of them. You'll end up lifting the body off the axle till the wheel/ axle is hanging off the flexi brake pipe or the bottom of the shock absorber (not cool). Unless you use a dislocation strap or chain mmm specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Mercedes sprinter 2-stage bottle jacks can/could be found on eBay, nice relatively compact very high lift for a bottle jack and seem good quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Do they have a 'C' shaped top like the Disco and RRC ones do John? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Another vote for the LR bottle jack. They were also included by LR on TDCI Defenders, not just RRC, Discovery and P38, though my wife's was black rather than the deep red most were. You see plenty of them for sale at the big shows for £10-15. Pick a good one (check the pistons for scoring or damage by extending it fully) and remember the two-piece handle! Trolley jacks are great on the driveway, but awful things to lug around in the car. I just use the LR type - they are surprisingly strong and with their double piston, lift a long way (Halfords and other general types only have a single piston, so only have half the lift height; don't get one of those) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Do they have a 'C' shaped top like the Disco and RRC ones do John? Yes, they've got a saddle that can be removed by knocking out a roll pin if you feel the need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSmorshuns Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Lots of good advice, thanks guys. Hadn't thought about that issue of lifting the body and not the axle. Obvious now that you say it Pete.I have a trolley jack for home, but I wouldn't want to spare it the space when on the road. Heavy too.Looks like I should just upgrade my bottle jack then. Disco ones from about £35 on ebay currently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackmac Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Lots of good advice, thanks guys. Hadn't thought about that issue of lifting the body and not the axle. Obvious now that you say it Pete. I have a trolley jack for home, but I wouldn't want to spare it the space when on the road. Heavy too. Looks like I should just upgrade my bottle jack then. Disco ones from about £35 on ebay currently... I got one for a tenner from one of the shows... £35 seems steep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 You want one of the Discovery bottle jack because they are dual piston. Normal one piston bottle jacks do not have enough lifting range with a flat tyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I'd say wait until one of the shows or sort outs. Can usually be had for £10-15. I think I paid about £10 for mine a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I have a Clark 8ton in 45 and a 12ton in the 110. You need to screw out the top to get enough height. I vaguely remember my disco bottle jack not going high enough for 33" tyres but I could be wrong and I managed to bend the second stage ram on mine. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Hmm, RRC jack tall enough for my 33" simex JT2s... Which sit more like 34.5. Perhaps was on 35s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I could get my old 255/85R16 (33") well off the ground with my disco jack . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Yes, they should be good for any normal tyres. If you get a single stage jack that lifts high enough, it won't fit under the axle when it is flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Maybe it was after I bent it but before I realized that it wasn't tall enough. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 My mate uses a Sprinter/Crafter jack successfully. They are a smidge taller (which isn't a bad thing). Rated at 2.6T and has a saddle on top. Think they are 2 stage. Prices similar to P38/Disco jack etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Same as ^^^ above - my vote is for a Sprinter jack. The saddle is good and the two stage is quick. I carry it with me. In the garage I have an ancient farm bottle jack, I think it's 4T. The best bit is the additional screw 'piston' at the top that allows it to be height adjusted before pumping, to increase the lift available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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