micahshere Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Hello All, Tried looking through the tech articles and couldn't quite find what I was looking for. My 200tdi seems to emit a noticeable amount of oil vapor. Was wondering if this is normal or an indication of a worn part. Thanks for your help! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephencdavies Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 oil vapour from where. is it from the oil filler cap, when removed, the dip stick or crank case vent to the air filter. the 1st thing i'd do is check that the engine is breathing as it should. remove the separator and pipes. give them a good clean. at least you'll know that it can separate oil and air. its possible that the separator outlet to sump could be restricted. is it due an oil change, if so give it a engine flush to rid it of any held up crud. hopefully it wont be caused by bad rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Indeed, where from and how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahshere Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Thanks for the replies. The oil filler opening is clear, no vapor from it. Will give the seperator and pipes a good cleaning. The oil vapor is coming from the oil catch cylinder connected to the cyclone breather. Changed the cyclone breather out hoping it could be the issue, but no luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 just clean the cyclonic breather, no need to replace it, there are no moving parts inside, it should drain oil direct to sump via the bottom hose & the stub facing forward goes to air cleaner connection, I'm assuming you or a previous owner plumbed the catch tank in, as they are not a factory fit item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephencdavies Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 As Western said. put it back to spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Oil catch tanks are actually very worthwhile... Saves all the snot going through your intercooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahshere Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Thanks for the replies, attached are some quick picks of my setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 That doesn't look right? At all! That pipe going to the bottle should go to the air intake to provide the suction to cause the separator cyclone to work, shouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 It normally does, to provide a small vacuum to suck the oil vapour into the induction system. That may benefit overall emissions, but it does make a hell of a mess of the ducts, pipes and intercooler over time. I set my 109 up with the breather running to the intake tract of the oil filter to prevent contamination of the rest of the system, and used a K&N as a paper filter would clog, get soggy and probably collapse. It works well. A catch tank is no bad thing, but it has to vent, so the hose should run inside the tank and not be sealed. What is done in the photos above is nonfunctional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahshere Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Great suggestion Snagger, do you have any pictures of your setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 does it catch any oil with the hose that much higher than the breather unit ? also note your engine has the other breather hose from rocker cover to crankcase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahshere Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 It usually sits lower, just took it out to show. It does collect oil, just emptied it today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Thought that might have been the case, how much oil ? & how often do you empty the bottle. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 That's not an oil breather tank.... That's a pop bottle. If your getting oil in there, something sinister is almost certainly going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahshere Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 There was about a centimeter of fluid in there today. Haven't emptied it since last year about the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I'm surprised by that... Engine sounds fine in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Great suggestion Snagger, do you have any pictures of your setup? http://www.nickslandrover.co.uk/easy-breathing/ Not only do K&N type filters not break down and tear with oil contamination, but the dirtier they get, the better they filter the air, especially if the dirt on the filter is moist, like oil. The amount of oil collected int here is small, the base of the canister just needing a wipe with a rag each service, but it keeps the rest of the induction system tract spotlessly clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahshere Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Great idea snagger, will try to route the hose through the filter. I will take some pictures later to show an update. Just need to order a k&n now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Except K&N filtration capability is horrible. They are not a good choice for the health of your engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Have to agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Except K&N filtration capability is horrible. They are not a good choice for the health of your engine. That is true, but application is a factor - my filter is prefiltered by the cyclonic head and raised intake level of the snorkel, and the car isn't used in a very dusty environment. If I was to take the vehicle to a dusty environment, even with the snorkel, I'd temporarily use the standard filter that resides in one of the side lockers along with the other spare filters and lubricants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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