Pappa Smurf
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Look at what LHD 300tdi defenders do.
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I've never seen the Britparts in person, but the Exmoor kits are excellent. Very comfortable, easy to fit, theres even a Youtube fitting guide. More choices as well from what I can tell. I've got black vinyl, and its very good quality, a lot of people think its leather.
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2 hours ago, paime said:
What size do you normally use?
235 85 R16
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I've got Cooper Discoverer AT3 Sports. They are the best tyres I've used. Quiet, good road handling, and do me for the greenlaning I do.
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10 hours ago, smallfry said:
The engine mounts on the chassis are different and will need to be changed for the V8 90/110/Disco/RR classic type. Other than that, its just a different recipe of standard parts.
You don't NEED an LT85. They also came with LT77, LT77S, and R380 boxes. Must be the V8 type to get the right bellhousing, and all will bolt up to your transfer box. Check the gearbox output splines though, as this is a common problem. You may find your existing transfer box ratio a bit low though, but it depends on what wheels and tyres you have fitted.
With this setup, it will all fit your new chassis mounts and use standard exhausts etc.
You don't necessarily need a V8 specific gearbox, there are companies that make an adapter ring.
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You don't need an LT85 gearbox. Steve Parkers do a conversion kit to fit to an LT77.
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21 minutes ago, Bowie69 said:
Did you see the bit about 'not in the EU'?
Did you not see the comments further up about Africa?
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4 hours ago, Bowie69 said:
No way in the EU, couldn't possibly pass emission standards.
A lot of south American made vehicles are still mechanical fuel injected. Theres a company still using a 2.8 version of the 300tdi.
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4 hours ago, Chicken Drumstick said:
Pretty hard to fine with modern cars though. Are any made today without?
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17 minutes ago, Chicken Drumstick said:
I suspect that is rather unfair to the Td5, it passed all of the MoD durability tests and is based on the proven L-Series architecture. It has a few issues, but no more so than almost any other modern engine from other car makers IMO.
In return you get a lot more power and torque, lot more tuning ability and a much more refined engine. There are also plenty in daily service still and lots of high mileage ones.
Some people, in the more wilder parts of the world, don't want ECUs.
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55 minutes ago, Snagger said:
Same in Canada, if you watch those Britannica Restorations YouTube videos. I’ll be keeping my 109 and RRC as Tdi until electric conversions have the range and cost to be viable to me. They’re a little raucous, and perform less than the bigger V8s and later diesels, but Tdis are very simple and reliable.
This is why I've said the new Defender will only be a Chelsea tractor for rich folk who live 10 miles from the nearest JLR dealership, and will never go off road or out into the wilds.
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8 hours ago, youngengineer said:
I have a series 3 109 fitted with a defender 200tdi engine. I recently purchased what was advertised as a 200tdi defender alternator only the find that the mounting bolt holes to be different places.
It seems to me to be a discovery 200tdi alternator which would be mounted on the injection pump side of engine. I have managed to mount it in the existing position "without tensioner bolt" but as you might imagine under high load the belt starts to slip.
Is there any solution other then purchasing another alternator? I could weld up some funky bracketing and most likely come up with something but I thought I would ask first.
Send it back and buy the one you need. I did the exact same thing.
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For ease and cheapness, go 2.5na, 2.5td or 200tdi. 300tdi would be easy, but you'd need new engine mounts. You can make a 2.5 na better, Turners performance head, advance the fueling, straight through exhaust, still won't be a 200tdi, or even 2.5td, but it will be better and will last forever. It must be decent because the British Army used to rally that exact set up.
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12 minutes ago, JimAttrill said:
Here in SA they made 2.8 BMW powered Defenders in 90 and 110 chassis. The 90 tended to be a bit of a handful as the steering and brakes were not up to the speeds it could get to. The 110 was more controllable. There was talk at one time that the insurance companies were not going to insure the 90s. Anyway it all ended when BMW sold LR to Ford.
Theres also a Facebook group of dedicated people fitting all sorts of BMW engines into Defenders.
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10 minutes ago, JimAttrill said:
Here in SA they made 2.8 BMW powered Defenders in 90 and 110 chassis. The 90 tended to be a bit of a handful as the steering and brakes were not up to the speeds it could get to. The 110 was more controllable. There was talk at one time that the insurance companies were not going to insure the 90s. Anyway it all ended when BMW sold LR to Ford.
The Freelander 1 and P38, L322 Range Rovers also came fitted with BMW Diesels, in Europe anyway, not sure about the rest of the world.
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Look on the webs for ex-British Forces lhd vehicles. They were made for use in Germany and Canada mostly, many of the Canadian ones were winterised.
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12 hours ago, joe1 said:
And next of course we will hopefully see the Ineos Grenadier as another Defender-contender - built in Bridgend and (uh uh) BMW powered....... Should be interesting
Won't be the first time a LR was BMW powered.
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15 minutes ago, maxamillion said:
To be honest, I have no idea. Regulations in Belgium are not always straight clear lines in a book.
Let me give you an example of what we have to deal with over here. You are most certainly allowed to bolt a Turbo to you engine. But you are only allowed to use it whilst driving backwards.
...Policeman on the highway.
Cop. '..and what the hell do you think you are doing, driving backwards on the highway, sir?'.
Me. 'Well, I installed a turbo to my engine yesterday. And by regulation I am obl...'
Cop. 'O, I see! Well, of you go, sir. Cary on then!'
A Turbo... sounds nice. But I will probably not like the sound of the bill for the makeover. Is there already topic about this kind of transformation to a 2.5DL Natural Aspiration?
Don't bolt a turbo to an N/A diesel. There is a reason why when Land Rover did it, they had to do some significant upgrades. If you want a 19j, which is the TD engine, I have one sat in the garage. But it's in the UK.
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55 minutes ago, FridgeFreezer said:
Only because there's enough folks here who paint them as the panacea for all and that's just not the case - they're good engines and an easy conversion, but they're not perfect and they're pretty old now. Not as slow as I make them sound? Sure a TDi Defender can keep up with traffic and tow nicely enough, but they don't exactly enjoy a surplus of power.
Also not so much the case here, but I see people encouraging others to rip NA lumps out of original Series or early Defenders and drop TDi's in, almost without thinking, which in a lot of cases is ruining an original truck that's never going to do enough miles to have been worth it. The old 2.25 / 2.5 lumps (petrol & diesel) are very good engines in themselves and (in good nick) are a decent power unit for a classic that's going to chunter along the country lanes in the sunshine.
Anyway, I'm not trying to start a holy war here, just picking up OP's comment that he wanted a bit of excitement, and going from 68hp to ~110hp is not a big leap in excitement in everyone's book.
As strange as it might sound. I've always wanted a 2.5 Petrol. I'm not even sure why, I just do. I know they are tuneable, and can be modernised with fuel injection. But then I keep day dreaming about a 3.5 V8 efi removed from a Disco 1. Again, don't ask me why only 3.5, I guess it's because the Defender came with a 3.5. Since I don't do any towing, and no serious off roading, a petrol would be fine for me. I really like my 200tdi, but as everyone says, by gods is it loud.
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1 hour ago, reb78 said:
I never understand the level of 200tdi hate on here from a select few. Its a good engine. The thing that holds it back in my opinion is gearing. Get an overdrive and it is much more versatile than with the standard gearing. Mine will trundle along at 80 quite happily with the overdrive engaged. It isn't slow and it will chug along all day quite happily and return reasonable economy for what it is driving around - 23-25mpg in mine (many report nearer to 30mpg). Stick veg oil in it at half the price of diesel and its the equivalent cost of 46-50mpg.
I think the 200tdi is awesome, especially the Disco 200tdi. Mine is smooth and punchy. Could do with a VNT turbo and a Disco 2 transfer box. But I love it. Once I've sorted the sound proofing it will cruise all day on the motorway. I'm getting 26mpg on average. I rate it as highly as a 300tdi.
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No it's not about race. It's a out management. Sadly, during the 79s BL/LR/Rover was owned by money grabbing exercisers and staffed by socialists, so things didnt go well. In the 80s, it was owned by people who didnt get it into their heads that the motor industry, especially Japan and Germany, was leaving them in the dust. The 90s, the company was owned by a consortium who only wanted to sell it off bit by bit, to get the most profit they could. The new owners then did their own thing with the bits they bought. JLR has had too many owners, most of whom have not kept an eye on the far eastern market, all of whom now make cheaper, but just as good vehicles. JLRs refusal to fit smaller capacity petrol engines has hit it hard. Diesel gate has not been good. Sadly JLR have chosen their target audience, and priced out us working class Brits. Hence why Suzuki has a 2 year waiting list for Jimnys and why every other vehicle I see on the road is a Hilux or Ford Raptor.
I can't see the new Defendee selling any better than the rest of their range, in fact I think they are just giving more choice to the same people who already own other LR models.
What I dont understand about LR of the 90s is that they had some of the largest longterm contracts it's possible to get, MOD, Police, Fire, Mountain rescue, forestry commission, utility companies, builders, the Royal Family, farmers, but they didnt see that as a big enough market? Especially when you add in the other buyers from around the world, including the police, militaries and safari industries of Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe. The old Defender, properly built and updated as needed, should have kept the market.
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8 hours ago, Naks said:
the LT230 is generally good, but has a tendency to self-destruct under certain circumstances.
it's more the rest of the car I was referring to: rubbish build quality, not surprising seeing that it was British hand-built.
Brand new Puma in 2010 had a bent axle, for which I had to fight LR to get a replacement. Gearbox replaced after a year or so, ditto for rear diff. It's had a few clutches replaced, can't even remember if it was 3 or 4 times.
For the past 2 years it's developed a drivetrain vibration that keeps loosening the prop bolts, and two of the best indies in CT haven't been able to sort it out, so haven't been able to use it for that time.
so yeah, British hand-built? no thank you.
btw, the new one has a low crawl ratio of 51.5:1 for diesel versions and 57.2:1 for the six-cylinder petrol.
Let's not forget the JLR is an Indian company. Dodgy parts are the fault of the accountants, not the engineers.
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If you must keep that engine. Some countries don't let you swap engines. You can do three things. First, rebuild the engine, make sure it is 100%. Second, adjust the fuel by rotating the fuel pump, this will give you a small increase in power, and I mean small. Thirdly, get a Turners Performance cylinder head. This could give you upto 10bhp. The British Army Land Rover rally team used to do these things and there was a slight improvement. However, it is not cheap, engine rebuild £1500ish. Gearbox/Transfer box rebuild £1000ish. Performance head, £700ish.
Brakes can also be upgraded with the usual kits you can get from most LR parts companies.
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6 hours ago, RIG1076 said:
Many thanks Western, I'v been trawling through these in awe of some of the fabrication work & mechanical aptitude of members projects,
all good stuff, & I have no doubt forum will be full of useful information that I can use for reference that I can reap the benefit from & if I cant find
what I'm looking for I'll ask 🙂
Currently abroad with work, but I will be sure to post pictures of my 'basket case' once I have collected & moved to my home, think I may
need to buy a large mug for tea, just so I can stare at it all, contemplate where to start whilst scratching my head and thinking WTF !
Thanks Steve.
Check out Britannic Restorations on YouTube. Mike has already done 1 90 resto and is currently doing a NAS 90. Well worth the watch.
300 tdi Remove complete egr or just blank
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Leave it alone. There is a reason it's there, and a reason why it's on the MOT. However, Alisport do a kit.