Back in the fold. Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi All, Hopefully somebody might be able to help with the following, I'm getting to the end of my tether having spent 8 hours stripping parts off my Disco to no avail. Symptoms; Loss of the following functions; Rear fog light Rear wiper Remote central locking/unlocking (not alarm function though) Central locking from internal switch Indicators (dash light still works but no external lighting) Now the strange thing is all functions work normally when the front wipers are on. The internal fuse box has a large yellow relay (R3) this clicks when some of the functions are pressed and they don't work. Any clues? So far I've done the following; Stripped out towing loom (dodgy wiring) Stripped out old car phone set up. Checked fuses Checked front wiper earth & wiring. General nosey around earthing points and wires. All in good nick with no corrosion. I'm going to try and remove the fuse boxes tonight for a closer look, especially the internal one. Under pressure as we need to get to Wales this week-end in it! Any hints or clues appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierrafery Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 You-re on the good road checking the internal fusebox/IDM ... next step must be the BCU/it's plugs behind the glovebox, water ingress there is quite common, or dry joints inside of the unit...or faulty BCU or IDM in the worst case... coz: The BCU uses solid-state microprocessor control to perform logical operations and timing functions for a variety of the vehicle's electrically operated systems, these include: Door locking. Anti-theft alarm and immobilisation system. Exterior lighting including direction indicators and hazard warning lamps. Courtesy lighting. Wipers and washers. Electric windows and sunroof. Heated windows. The BCU communicates with the IDM to provide the control signals to perform power switching operations in conjunction with dedicated relays. IDM The IDM is integrated into the passenger compartment fuse box, which is mounted behind the fascia below the steering column. There are no harnesses between the fuse box and the IDM. The IDM performs the power switching operations for several of the vehicle's electrical systems. IDM outputs The IDM receives the following signals from the BCU using the serial datalink to provide power outputs: Description Signal type System Unlock all doors enable Digital Locking/ Unlocking/ Alarm Lock passenger and rear doors enable Digital Locking/ Unlocking/ Alarm Superlock all doors enable Digital Locking/ Unlocking/ Alarm Lock driver's door Digital Locking/ Unlocking/ Alarm Rear fog lamps enable Digital Exterior lighting Daylight running lamps enable Digital Exterior lighting LH direction indicators enable Digital Direction indicators/ Hazard warning/ Alarm RH direction indicators enable Digital Direction indicators/ Hazard warning/ Alarm Gear position indicator illumination Digital Illumination Headlamp main beam indicator disable Digital Illumination Front wiper enable Digital Wipers and washers Rear wiper enable Digital Wipers and washers Rear window enable Digital Power windows Shift lever solenoid enable Digital Automatic gearbox Transfer box solenoid enable/ Alarm sounder relay Digital Gearbox Heated rear window enable Digital Heated screens So as u can see it's quite complicated... seeing those inputs/outputs u figure it out where the problem lays. The best woud be to get hold of a known good fusebox/IDM and swap it with yours for test, just take into account that: The IDM communicates with the BCU and the instrument pack via a serial interface. If the BCU or the IDM is replaced, the communications link between the two units has to be re-established. This can be done either by switching on the ignition and leaving it on for five minutes, or by using TestBook. The vehicle immobilisation will remain active until the communications link between the BCU and IDM has been re-established. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the fold. Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thanks for the prompt response Sierra - much appreciated. Luckily I've solved it! After removing both fuse boxes for a closer inspection I noticed a spot of blue oxidation under the engine bay fuse box. The main loom (about 2.5" diameter) had a pin prick through the outer tape and the top wire (purple with brown? tracer) had corroded. Once I'd stripped it back the wire was totally corroded through. I rigged up a test wire and everything was working again. Soldered in a new bit of wire and all is good. Now just got to put all the bits of removed trim back on!!! I'm a bit perplexed as to how the wire corroded as its totally shielded by the fuse box so nothing could have accidentally broken the insulation. I'm just glad that the wire was in a fairly visible & accessible place!! Anyway, happy days. Thanks again. Sandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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