[Pay and Play Setup?]

Thanks for all the advice (g-rover/FridgeFreezer/Muddy). It has all been taken onboard and i now have a better idea of what i'm gona do when she is solid again. Looks like restraint is the order of the day with Cast Jate Rings all round, maybe a pin/ball hitch instead of std tow ball, cheap set of M/T tyres, set of police springs, good quality straps and recovery rope, good shovel etc...

Thanks again gents. Will keep you apprised of the rear X-member replacement. I plan on some surgury this weekend.

Thanks again Kris

[Pay and Play Setup?]

As a start, forget shiny suspension.

Make sure you have quality recovery equipment, as well as recovery points.

Then get a set of tyres, possibly AT to start with. Something like a remould

won´t cost the earth. Then get out there and get dirty. Also consider getting

a pressure washer and maybe a compressor, so you can rustproof the vehicle

once it is solid.

When you know what you like, you might prefer greenlaning or weekend camping

to P+P, then look at the vehicle and figure out how to improve it for the activities

you partake in.

Then your wallet/ fab skills/ tools are the limit. You will be surprised at how far

a standard vehicle can get with the right driver.

PS, i whole heartedly agree with the rust proofing as i once i've put all my blood sweat and tears into her i want her to stay solid. Chrisv8 has offered me a X-member from a rangey he is scrapping, i think i'm gona go see him about it when he goes to a Sort out at Brinham i think it is. It would be alot cheaper than a new one but i'm a little unsure about 2nd hand parts. I'm a trusting person and i don't think ChrisV8 would steer me wrong. As for the boot floor i'm thinking of an aluminium floor, then that way i don't need to worry about it and would cut down on the welding(plenty of pop riviting though).

Also i think would like to see how far my driving skills would get me in a standard rangey as i'm quite proud of my driving . I'm a class 1 trucker for a living driving a 480bhp Volvo ( i know i've got a piccy of a merc on my profile , that was my old truck, i can't find a volvo piccy small enough to display) and i've also got a PSV.

As for recovery equipment would i need any more for the basics than a good strong tow rope (maybe a bungee), a good shovel and plenty of people to help with the pushing and hard labour

Thanks Kris

[Pay and Play Setup?]

As a start, forget shiny suspension.

Make sure you have quality recovery equipment, as well as recovery points.

Then get a set of tyres, possibly AT to start with. Something like a remould

won´t cost the earth. Then get out there and get dirty. Also consider getting

a pressure washer and maybe a compressor, so you can rustproof the vehicle

once it is solid.

When you know what you like, you might prefer greenlaning or weekend camping

to P+P, then look at the vehicle and figure out how to improve it for the activities

you partake in.

Then your wallet/ fab skills/ tools are the limit. You will be surprised at how far

a standard vehicle can get with the right driver.

Thanks for the advice, you sound way too sensible to be owning landies I think Insa Turbos are remoulds and they seem reasonably priced. At the moment the tyres i have on are 195 on standard LSE 16" alloys which i think are a bit skinny and are starting to crack on the side walls even though there is plenty of tread on them so i think for safety they need replacing. I've read in land rover mags that M/T are frowned upon when green laning so maybe A/T is the better option.

Do i need to fit new bumpers for recovery points or do they come straight off the chassis ie ringlets, do i need them welded on? I was going to remove the front fog lamp valance anyway and i have a tow bar on the back(which i don't use,was thinking of removing it) but i don't think that would be any good for another landie to tug on if i'm stuck.

At the moment all my off road experience comes from messing about on the land at the back of Yeadon Airport Leeds. I enjoyed it alot but i wasn't sure if it's legal to be up there. I have seen some videos on youtube of landies on Tong Moore and at Flappits(is that still open?) and it looks alot of fun. They aren't far away from me, hence why i was asking about a pay and play setup.

Thanks again Kris

[Newbie]

Probably got an offside light cluster in the heap of stuff in the barn, Sort Out is on a farm at Brimham HG3 3HE just above Pately Bridge, I usually end up doing some lanes on the way back through the Dales making a nice day out !!

Haven't done any green laning yet. Would like to but with the rangey off the road and the mrs car being chrysler 300C (hence the tight budget, costing me an arm and a leg is the yank tank) it's not practical.

[Pay and Play Setup?]

Going by your other post I would think you'd want to make

sure everything is solid, especially your recovery points, rather

than spending money on shiny stuff.

As i said i will have plenty off time to consider peoples opinions as like you rightly point out i need to get her solid again so that will take proriority.

Any advice you can give a novice will be appreciated.

Also i'm on a very tight budget so after i have finished shoring her up i only want to buy things once and not do trial and error setups. Thats why i set the post up so i could get a number of peoples opinions over a period of time.

Thanks Kris

[Pay and Play Setup?]

As my 93L LSE is off the road at the moment (see Newbie/Rear floor X-member replacement Post) and before i go to MOT i will need 4 new tyres and some bushes replacing. I would like to modify the suspension (maybe a 2"spring lift), replace all the bushes with poly ones and then fit some appropriate size tyres.

I don't want to modify the arches but i would like to fit heavy duty bumpers at a later date(not sure if that's relavent?). Opinions on A/T, M/T and the cheap Insa Turbo brand tyres would be very helpfull.

The set up i would like is for pay and play sites but not extreme as i will prob have the mrs and my 4 year old girl with me .

Thanks for your input and hope it's a good talking point, i have plenty of time to ponder your suggestions as i'm gona have my hands full with the rear end tin worm .

Thanks again Kris

[Newbie]

I will remove it anyway as it's a shame to waste it, can store no problem, may take it to the Brimham Sort Out if you are interested 9th August up by Ripon.

They are about £60.00 new but it would be very cheap if needed !

Not heard of that as i'm new to all this . Sounds interesting as i also need an O/S/R Light cluster. Do you have a proper address (Did you mean Bramham were they have the Reading and leeds concert?). I'm hopefully gona go to the Newark show on 17-19 July, see whats what (would like to take the old girl on the off road course ). I'll have a word with my bank manager AKA The Mrs and take a trip to the Sort Out, maybe see you there.

Thanks Kris

[Newbie]

May be useful I have a RR about to go to the scrapyard with a really good rear x member if interested could cut it out before it goes ?

It was installed a year or so ago but the rest of the car rotted away, there's an ally floor as well somewhere in the pile of stuff.

Can get it to Leeds very easily.

Thankd for the offer , I've just been looking at how Orange replaced his . As i'm a complete novice (no welding/faricating/body experience) when it comes to this i maybe biting off more than i can chew but she is my 1st landie and i love her to bits so i'm at least gona try and rescue her . At the moment i'm just in the research stage as the credit crunch has robbed me of any funds at the moment so i can't buy anything from you. From what i've seen first thing i need to get is an 8mm spot weld drill to go with an angle grinder and a bathtub full of elbow grease . This is going to be a long term project for me and would appreciate any advice you can give . If you can hold the parts for me i would hope to be in a better posotion in a couple of months and cound maybe make an offer then .

Thanks Kris

[Newbie]

The 'Search' facility is very useful. Brings this up http://forums.lr4x4.com/lofiversion/index.php/t22294.html

Thanks for the link. Those pics show me what a task i have ahead of me though. No time like the present to learn to weld eh?

[Newbie]

Hi everybody . I just joined this site as i'm looking for information on how best to replace my rusty boot floor. Look forward to talking to you in the near future. This job and a few others are going to take a while (credit crunch not helping matters) so it will give me chance to learn how to use this site properly too as i'm a bit computer illiterate . Cheers and talk soon .