Josh

Well i spoke to MM4x4 earlier. I bought their standard lift kit. Springs and shocks. They say that with this kit they only provide standard shocks as the kit doesnt include longer brake lines, dislocation cones etc. They say this is the case because they had complaints from customers having springs pop out and brake lines snap. They do sell a off road lift kit which comprises of everything you need to have +2" shocks. The bloke said that if i had stated that i wanted +2" with the smaller kit then that would have been done at my own risk. I made the point that i was never asked if i wanted longer shocks but i shouldnt have assumed they were +2's. So in a nutshell i suppose im partly to blame. Josh

Thanks for the heads up on the mounts Stu. I will ring MM4x4 tomorrow and if its bad news then i will take them! I can see from the pictures posted above that +2" shocks will give me the travel/ articulation i need. It is my daily driver and i cant justify spending the money on a new setup. Gredit crunch 'n' all! Josh

I bought bumpstops and brake lines with the kit! I thought i was getting +2" dampers so they were a must. I really hope i get this sorted! Otherwise it will have been an expensive modification. Josh

Yeah thats the kit i bought. I was expecting yellow springs and yellow shock boots but when the kit arrived they were blue bearmach springs and black shock boots. Im worried now that when i ring on monday they might just tell me that they are the right shocks. If there is no specified length in the description then they can say i have the right ones. Hopefully though they will see reason. You can sell a 2" lift with standard shocks surely? Josh

Well iv just been and checked the pro comp shock length up to the land rover shock i took off and their exactly the same length! So it would seem that you were right stu and i have been supplied the wrong shock. Im surprised they havent blown up to be honest. No anti roll bars and i have given them some punishment. So i will be ringing MM4x4 on monday to get the right shocks. Josh

You could be right about having the wrong shock length. Does anyone know what length a +2" pro comp shock should be extended? I will try get some photos on the twist off ramp next time im at my uncles! Stu are you using standard trailing arms too?i get nowhere near than kind of twist. Cheers Josh

Sorry stu i didnt answer your question....... I think i need more articulation because i have seen discos with the exact set up as mine gain much more articulation with larger tyres on. To me that doesnt make sense and makes me think something isnt quite right. I have found a pic that was taken just after i had fitted the lift kit. It shows the disco at full rear articulation.....from there i rolled forward a bit and the d/s rear wheel wasnt touching the floor. Josh

Thanks for yet more good feedback guys! In regard to getting a good view from the outside i have tried this. I have yet to trust anyone to drive it off road with out me onboard!But........... My uncle has a plant trailer so me and my cousin often have twist offs up the ramps. He has a RRC with a 1" lift (+2" pro comps) and running 235/70/r16 muds. He gets always gets a bit further than me and keeps all wheels on the ground and his springs dislocate at the rear (he has rear cones and standard trailing arms). Whereas me........... ...........im running slightly larger tyres (245/75r16 - 1.5" taller than standard). I always lift the rear wheel closest to the ramp and my spring hasnt even dislocated, theres still room for the opposite wheel to go into the arch and its hasnt hit the bump stop. The trailing arms dont look stretched either. Is it wrong of me to think that the springs should dislocate? Thanks Josh

Hi orange, The vehicle is my daily run around and iv been using it with the lift for about 2 months. I use it for either greenlaning and pay and plays most weekends. It would seem to make more sense to buy once and buy right. maybe im just too eager! Josh

Thanks for the further replies! Being a slight novice to suspension its alot to take onboard. I didnt realsie how many implications there would be. I have done a search on lowered shock mounts on here and the defender forum. The general consensus is that longer shocks are the best way to go. I have only had my shocks a couple of months so getting rid of them isnt really a justfiable option. Most people who have fitted the lowered mounts say that they have had no problems with the shock topping due to the extended bump stops and that there is defininatley increased extra articluation. But is it worth spending 100quid and lowering the shock mounts or sticking with what iv got and saving up for longer shocks? Josh

Thanks for the further replies! Being a slight novice to suspension its alot to take onboard. I didnt realsie how many implications there would be. I have done a search on lowered shock mounts on here and the defender forum. The general consensus is that longer shocks are the best way to go. I have only had my shocks a couple of months so getting rid of them isnt really a justfiable option. Most people who have fitted the lowered mounts say that they have had no problems with the shock topping due to the extended bump stops and that there is defininatley increased extra articluation. But is it worth spending 100quid and lowering the shock mounts or sticking with what iv got and saving up for longer shocks? Josh

Thanks for the advice everyone. I can see now that the +2" shocks are going to be overstretched. Where can i find longer shocks? done a google search but i cant find any over 2". thanks Josh

Thanks for the quick reply Adrian. My dampers are +2", is this enough?i dont know?????. I have just been looking on a few websites (thanks for suggesting a couple more), paddocks make front and rear lowered shock mounts. Trailing arms are pretty cheap on ebay too. I think that it could be much cheaper to comprise my own kit from several sources. Josh

Hi all, Im running a 300tdi 96 disco with a 2" lift. The extra ride height is good off road but the articulation isnt brilliant. Its lifted with bearmach heavy duty springs and pro comp es9000 shocks, with roll bars removed. I saw the scorpion evolution kit in a landy mag and i have a few questions. 1) From what i can gather the kit moves the shock mounts down 2 inches and replaces the bump stops with extended poly stops (front and rear). So where does the extra articualtion come from? 2) Will i see a big enough improvement to justify buying it. 3) Anyone with experience fitting/using this kit please let me know what its like..good or bad. Cheers Josh

I paid 1600 for my M reg 300tdi. Its a bog standard GS model. It had a small amount of rust ontop of the rear arches where the doors open but thats was the only slightly worrying thing i coud find. It had done just under 80k when i bought it. With all the mods the disco your looking at has....... id say it was a bargain. Just give it a really good check over before making any commitment to buy. Josh

Thanks for the replies. I had looked into prices and noticed they were pretty cheap so i will replace it asap. Does anyone know the genuine part no for a lift pump (disco 98 300tdi)? Any advice for removal and fitting? Cheers Josh

Cheers bogmonster, Tried flicking the engine over on the starter a few times. There was no significant change in resistance on the pump lever so im going to assume its stuffed. Josh

Hi everyone, My discovery 300tdi has been suffering from slight but noticable power loss recenlty, especially up hills. Its been struggling to pull and sluggish through the gears (more so than normal!). At the weekend I went about changing all the filters and decided to clean out the inlet manifold and block the egr while i had the time. After this i decided to have a look at the lift pump as i have been told of their un-reliability. I loosened the bleed screw on the fuel filter and went to work the manual pump and there was no resistance on the lever and it wasnt pumping any fuel through? Im not too clued up on fuel sytems so i didnt know exactly what to make of this. My question is.......is my lift pump stuffed and if so will this be a reason for my power loss? Thanks Josh

Thanks for the feedback Raceface. Do you have any pics of the kumhos fitted? cheers

Hi all, Just lifted my disco 1 300tdi with the mm4x4 1.5inch lift kit. Im still running standard 235/70 r16 road tyres. I want to fit 245/75s but i cant decide on which tyres . The Kumho kl71's are cheap compared to a set of good all terrains. I found the Kumhos for 77 quid a tyre.(i think thats ok?) I mostly will be on road but i want decent off road performace when i pay and play at weekends. Does anyone have any feedback on the kumhos for road and off road use? Whats the wear like on em? Cheers

Thanks for the feedback and advice so far! I have ordered the lift kit now . Would it be possible to put spacers between the anti roll bar brackets and the chassis to conpensate for the lift?would this make the lift kit work better off road? Sorry if these are novice questions but im new to coils springs! i was a leafy before i bought the discovery. Cheers

Hi all, Just bought a 300tdi discovery and i'm thinking of ordering a 1.5" lift kit from mm4x4 to go with my kumho kl71 245/75 r16s. Im wondering what the ride comfort will be like on road? I have heard that lift kits make the land rover more unpredicatble on corners and at higher speeds. Could I leave the roll bars on without sacrificing articualtion off road?I would appreciate any advice. Cheers Josh