Chris A Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 As a newbie to this forum, I have noticed all the problems that posters have with getting their RRs engines to start and run. I have a somewhat different problem - getting mine to stop! I can stand beside the car (year 2000 P38DHSE - 104,000 miles) with the keys in my hand with the engine happily running. Yes, I can stop it by pulling out the appropriate fuse but somehow that doesn't seem the right way to behave with a rangie. The info center throws up 'ABS fault' and 'traction failure', but I suspect it only does this to entertain me. The test computer finds no fault, other than showing the engine air temperature at some minus 38degrees. I really don't believe that, but equally I don't know if it's significant. Also the panel of orange height status lights stay on when the engine is finally immobilized. I can then put the key in and start up the engine as normal - except that it won't stop when I take the key out. The alarm system works fine, and I can lock the car whilst the engine is still running. In fact everything else seems to work just as normal. It did a dummy run on this problem about two weeks back, but then it suddenly seemed to sort itself out and worked okay until today. So far the guys who look after my baby are mighty puzzled - but jubilant that I seem to have discovered what might be a new RR problem. Does anyone else have experience of this sort of bad behaviour, or suggestions as to what could be causing it?? Chris A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 First thought, there is 12v power being delivered to the fuel stop solenoid on the rear of the FIP when the ignition is switched off Ask your 'guys' to look at the wiring diagram to see where this is normally fed from, and look for a fault in that area. That power feed may well be from a relay (19?), so it could be a faulty relay, with the contacts welded together, or it could be a fault in the operate circuit of that relay. Alternatively, the FIP is breaking up and debris has got into the stop solenoid, jamming it in the open position. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 First thought, there is 12v power being delivered to the fuel stop solenoid on the rear of the FIP when the ignition is switched off Ask your 'guys' to look at the wiring diagram to see where this is normally fed from, and look for a fault in that area. That power feed may well be from a relay (19?), so it could be a faulty relay, with the contacts welded together, or it could be a fault in the operate circuit of that relay. Alternatively, the FIP is breaking up and debris has got into the stop solenoid, jamming it in the open position. HTH Thanks Dave, I've passed your helpful comments on (I'm lucky enough to have a real Landie enthusiasts firm near me, 'fraid I don't trust the main dealer). They tell me that they have narrowed things down to a relay which is an integral part of the ECU (bad news of course), but they also said that it all worked okay this morning when they started to look at it ... bizarre. The good news is that they have a spare ECU in house which they are checking for compatibility, and if okay will be much cheaper. Will probably now try to run again and see if the problem repeats, then swap in the new ECU to see if that cures it. Fingers crossed ;^) Chris A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmymac Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 yes i would second that idea maybe you try to power it straight off the battery and then disconect the wire to see if it is working also if you put a power lead on and off it you should hear a little click Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_d Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 It has to come soon. "Where do I find the stop solenoid?" Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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