JONNIGEE Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 My clutch has been ready for replacement as the bearing is worn and causing the plate to have nasty contact, it has been driveable...just. It is booked in today for a replacement, I have bought a full kit and was looking forward to being back to 'normal' by the end of the day, However, last night whilst preparing to back onto the drive, I had no reverse gear, all other gears go in and it'll drive from 1st to 5th and back again, but reverse will just not 'engage', Half fookin killed meself (then the missus who I chose to do the steering instead of my 9 yr old boy) pushing it 'up' our drive. Can anybody tell me if the gear issue is linked to the buggered clutch, if so I'm expecting it to be okay once I get the car back, or is the gearbox on the same way as the old clutch. Got loads to pay out this month, incl MOT and Tax on top of the clutch I cannot bear the tought of a new Gearbox. Sorry forgot to mention, 300 tdi 95 'M' 2.5, Manual 130k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipx2 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 It has nothing to do with the clutch. If your are positive you can still engage 5th gear and still have drive in 5th, there could be something wrong with the safety mechanism that prevents you accidentally engaging reverse gear coming down directly from 5th gear. To try and see (to a certain degree) if the mechanism is still working, change into 5th gear and shift back to neutral several times (vehicle stationary, engine off, leave the door/window open, quiet environment). You should hear a "click" when you to shift back to neutral if the mechanism is still working. Edit: when yo shift back to neutral you need to go back to the left at least where the 3rd and 4th gears are (if not 1st and 2nd to make sure). If you move the lever back and forth in 5th the safety mechanism won't disengage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Did you mess around with the reversing light switch when you did the clutch ? It may be screwed in too far stopping reverse engaging. Ivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipx2 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 That would only be possible on a LT77 gearbox (200 series Discos). On R380 gearboxes (which are fitted to 300 series and D2s) the switch is screwed all the way in, there's no adjusment needed. And he said the gearbox problem appeared before replacing the clutch (which is probably done by the garage as we speak/write). But your idea is good. Could be a seized reverse switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNIGEE Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 That would only be possible on a LT77 gearbox (200 series Discos).On R380 gearboxes (which are fitted to 300 series and D2s) the switch is screwed all the way in, there's no adjusment needed. And he said the gearbox problem appeared before replacing the clutch (which is probably done by the garage as we speak/write). But your idea is good. Could be a seized reverse switch. Wot he said ^^^^, the car is in the garage at the mo, they just phoned to say 'might be a bit longer than first quoted' had originally said pick up 10.00 and return 3.45, but didnt pick up til 10.30 and now said back about 5 ish. I'm hopeful they discover the issue, diagnose it as a quick simple fix and hey-ho I'll be back slinkin thru the gears in no time!!! Any other ideas on the problem possibilities would be greatful received. thanks guys. p.s. the reverse lights where still coming on as I attempted to slot into reverse, and there is a clunk from underneath thru the window, so something is trying to go into place, it's just not clicking into place and staying there at the gearstick.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipx2 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Call them back and ask them to have a quick look at this problem, if there is one. It's much easier to diagnose hands on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNIGEE Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 Call them back and ask them to have a quick look at this problem, if there is one. It's much easier to diagnose hands on. Panic over fellow forumites, car returned at 7.05, pedal slides up n down like a cheap Amsterdam hooker with the dirty French sailors on shore leave. Every gear engages sweet as a macadamea, and REVERSE IS BACK!!!! Only £300.00 all in, Bargian! Thanks very much for replies tho guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First_Fleet Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Thanks very much for replies tho guys. So, to assist other owners here, what did they find & rectify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNIGEE Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 So, to assist other owners here, what did they find & rectify? Sorry I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to mechanics, I tend to blank over a bit when people start talking about mangle flange overiding locking spigot bearing bushels etc etc, but I'll try to describe roughly what the mecahnic told me... The clutch was really shot, and also the fork had pressed deeply onto the friction plate causing damage and resulting in the fork splitting, there was also mention of a spigot of some description which was also replaced, and what I could make out, he said that the holes which house the fork had become oval'd instead of round, so the new fork would have just moved or jumped in the oval shaped housing, these ovals were 'made good' and a new fork fitted, a new friction plate and I think he said pressure plate or facing plate and bearing ring were fitted, I think that the removal and refitting of the gearbox has eliminated the reverse engaging problem I had, they never mentioned when they dropped the car off that they had done any extra work because of the reverse problem. Sorry I can't be more specific but I am a novice, thanks to this forum though I am tackling more and more problems with the car instead of running to the mechanic everytime, and gawd bless my car she keeps giving me these tests to improve my knowledge of diagnosing and fixing little problems. I really appreciate the responses I get on this forum, and I can't wait for the glorious day when I get to answer somebody elses problem!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First_Fleet Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Thanks Jonnigee. Every little bit of knowledge helps others, as I mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardH1 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/5/2009 at 12:36 PM, cipx2 said: It has nothing to do with the clutch. If your are positive you can still engage 5th gear and still have drive in 5th, there could be something wrong with the safety mechanism that prevents you accidentally engaging reverse gear coming down directly from 5th gear. To try and see (to a certain degree) if the mechanism is still working, change into 5th gear and shift back to neutral several times (vehicle stationary, engine off, leave the door/window open, quiet environment). You should hear a "click" when you to shift back to neutral if the mechanism is still working. Edit: when yo shift back to neutral you need to go back to the left at least where the 3rd and 4th gears are (if not 1st and 2nd to make sure). If you move the lever back and forth in 5th the safety mechanism won't disengage. I have the same issue. Just done this check and got the click as described. Gears 1 to 5 engage and drive. Will not move into or engage reverse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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