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seems like i need to replace my sterreing box once a year.
would like a more permanent solution that can cope with competition use.
what are my options? heard the units from a disco II/p38 may be stronger.
has anyone fitted a box from a g wagon/toyota/GM? these seem to last a lot longer than the land rover boxes.
then ram assist may also be an option, but not sure whether thats suitable for high speed events?
cheers
spec
Ram assist will be fine as long as you get a pump with an output that is high enough. We run about 3 turns lock to lock (and reasonable lock) and you can't go faster than the hydraulics but we have a monstrous pump!
You will, however, get a different steering feel with hydraulic assist.
Tim
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Going a bit deaf ! Was that 2
Yep you heard it right 1 more than 1 way!!!
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Brand new from the technologically advanced innovation powerhouse that is Gigglepin.
The all new 1 way intercom to really communicate with your co-driver.
And as with everything Gigglepin 2 is better than 1, so as soon as testing is completed and competition success has proved the product, the twin upgrade will be available.
Giving all the benefits of full 2 way comms, yes you heard it right 2 WAY!!!!
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Tim ,
Its all your fault your truck made mine look so tatty its now in bits again
No winches
No wiring,
No fuel tank
Mind you apart from the fuel & tyre issue Friday morning had 3 days of faultless truck.
Just shame it couldnt stay on its wheels
You got that dent out yet
I thought you deliberately parked it on its roof. Landed neatly in the box!
The dent stays, filler just doesn't stick to that nylon coating. Next ones will all be 3mm in the key areas! Unless you can source me some of that tough pipe you use?
Biggest problem is getting some weird looking sticker off the bonnet. God knows what it is stuck on with?
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i bow to older and wiser eyes.they were not best pleased when they were disturbed though.
poor rob had to jump in the cold wet muddy lagoon of slime to get away from them and to get you out if i remember? and inside the the 25 min dnf
And on 3 tyres and 1 rim! (but with a fair bit of added support and guidance!)
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Great link Moose, thank you. I particularily like the way he has attached the front of the bikini top. The only porblem is my plan is to reduce weight, while that guy seems to have made a careful effort to add as much weight as possible.
Anyway, who said it was for a Discovery? And certainly nobody mentioned a V8 addition to the Watson fleet
Bear in mind the XJ is a unibody so needed some of that tube to remain rigid. Otherwise could use a lot less with a chassis.
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Off roading and exaggeration!! They were bumble bees! Rob went and had a real good close look.
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The video is pretty helpful although like all good TV does make it look easier.
The new pattern ones with the tyre valve on a separate piece are much easier.
We did 5 37x12.5 Krawlers onto 17" rims at about 20 minutes each.
No demons were harmed in the fitting!
Tim
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My technical roll is on D44 site
As is my "done to discover the limits of the vehicle on purpose" roll
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Tim, are you saying Jim's arms are made of T45 or 7075 aluminium?
No, mine are.
Just making the point that suspension arms need to be able to survive sideways abuse from rocks and stuff, not just along the axis.
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And presumably Simon about his?
I will share!
Lower links that are sufficiently strong in tension / compression is easy but as said above they get abused on rocks and so you need a link that will not collapse even after being whacked on the side and possibly dented. A link that can't survive that is not particularly useful. We have a "spare" set of lower links in T45 tube but the main set are now made from anodised 7075 aluminium. Solid 2" for the lowers and 1.5" for the uppers. It goes against the engineers to use solid but this is not the usual application. They are not used to people parking on their suspension links
Tim
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Ok sort of back on topic , My front QT arms have badly bent , along with a front qt diff gaurd , So im going back to standard arms until one of you clever chaps can come up with a soloution and make some FRONT arms that work and dont bend like the chocolate QT ones .
No need to wait, Land Rover have already developed great radius arms. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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"Standard arms are 715mm in length and the max droop is about 21 degrees. This means that there is 37.5% of the force pushing the vehicle forward is trying to lift the back end.
Gigglepins arms are 300mm longer which means that 31.7% of the force is trying to lift the vehicle - less than 5% difference.
I agree that 5% is significant - but in both cases, not just Gigglepin"
Have to ask how you worked this out? Is this based on a proper analysis of the roll centres etc and the anti-squat characteristics of the rear end? This is why vehicles bunny hop on climbs.
If not then it's a load of numbers and probably less valid than real world experience. What does a standard length arm (with or without fancy joints) do to the anti-squat and rear end dynamics with a 2" lift? I should think this effect is way more important than pinion rotation in producing a capable vehicle.
And why is everybody obsessed with the freedom of movement in joints? Suspension needs some roll resistance to make a vehicle handle decently (at anything over crawling speeds, oh but that's when anti-squat might become pretty important ). A rose jointed / other free joint suspension MUST have roll resistance added back in the forms of sway bars or something clever.
And as a parting shot, the design and material of the standard LR radius arm is pretty near perfect material engineering.
Right, that's my fuel poured on the fire. Bye
Tim
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Celebrity driver????? You shouldn't have said that - he'll get all big headed now
Air Shocks are an interesting choice - how do you think they'll cope with high speed work? So I take it you have a set of 2.5" body coil overs going spare?
Will
These air shocks are a temporary solution. We will have something else soon!
You have a pm.
Tim
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Tim - What happened to the coil-over you had made ? did they not work ?
We needed something shorter, less travel and shorter closed land open length. For now we are running these air shocks but we have something in the pipeline that should be even better!
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That's a very, very nice looking truck. I don't normally like the skeletal look but yours works
Mo
Thanks.
We already have design sketches for the bodywork.
Tim
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LOL! Who's the ugly bloke in the drivers seat :lol:
Just some young farmer type in a one of them flannel shirts. He was surrounded by a load of sheep when we got there.
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Should have bought a ceramic one, much lighter.
Tim
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Hey there,
Will you and the buggy be @ Billing too?
rgds
H.
We will be there with Allisport.
Tim
PS posted some pics in International forum
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Went out the other day to see how the new air shocks work. 2.5 Sway-away for anyone interested. Need some fine tuning but seem pretty close. No unloading issues and pretty stable.
Tim
PS thanks to the celebrity test driver!
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Sounds like a plan.........
There are going to be some sore heads.........Again
Is Dieter bringing his big LS monster?
@Daan: I am afraid you are right about the other thread, shame as there where some good thoughts.
I tend to agree with yourself that helmets is common sense and that if brought in sensibly would be a very worth while thing to do.
I was out yesterday test driving a new car, they are so quick now and cover the ground so fast and deal with terrian in an unbelieve manner, that you can find yourself in a lot of trouble very quickly
A crash helmet is a must for that kind of car.
Jim
And maybe some sonar eh Jim?????
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You'll have to bring them in yourself and they are not e-marked so not legal on the road.
Actually they are US DOT marked and the certificate is equivalent to the EU mark so they comply with C&U regs and can be taken through SVA. Therefore they are road legal.
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Cut mine out with a Dremel and heavy duty (by Dremel standards) disc. Very neat result.
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Try Ondrives
Or Orbital Fasteners
Tim
steering box options
in International Forum
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I'm still getting used to it! I like to think it contributed in part to my recent roll at Manby.
We have a Saginaw 4 bolt box and a double ended ram on the axle that also serves as the track rod.
It is very direct and precise but with very little feed back. You have to keep a grip and point it exactly where you want it and then turn it back to centre. The ram acts as a very powerful damper and does reduce the self centering characteristics.
But it does mean turning biggish tyres at low pressures in deep mud standing on the nose is really easy!
Tim