pantherslover

Im going to push on ahead. I've been able to disconnect the shifter linkages. The only things remaining are the mounting brackets and mounts. And a couple of gearbox extension bolts. Does the exhaust really have to come off? It looks like it can be swung around the pipe/silencer. Btw the designer of this vehicle is some kind of sadist. Not fun to work on. Covered in thick oily dust.

Now i have noticed that the nut on the end of the intermediate gear shaft is loose and i haven't touched it. The opposite end doesn't show and signs of ovalling. Im going to proceed. As long as i don't put pressure on the gearbox output shaft, I should be ok, no? Im still thinking of having someone else put this back together.

That's very nice of you. I think i might get it off and repair the tbox but I'm very nervous about being able to get it back on. Mostly due to the fact of all this sealant and thread lock etc. If you've never done this before.

That is when i read the shop manual. I don't think I'm competent enough to do this alone, nor do i have the interest. Im not even that interested in having the vehicle anyway. Why am i doing this to myself?

I am up to disconnecting the Hi lo difflock lever. Then reading on about guidestuds. I don't think I'll ever get this thing back on properly. May as well give up and take it to the garage. The whole concept is killing me.

Looked on dave ashcroft It doesnt list a kit for circlips, bearings and collapsible spacer. Does someone supply this? .

Ok i think i can answer my own question. Box has to come off to take out intermediate gears shaft. The gearbox covers the opening where the pin is withdrawn. I guess I'm going to need new circlips, bearings and collapsible spacer and o ring. And figure out how to drop the box.

Ok so the collapsible spacer has deformed further allowing the bearings to enter further into the gear cluster allowing for this unfortunate movement, almost certainly the cause of this racket.? Next question is.. Can i at least get this intermediate gear assembly out upside down. get the pin(shaft) out and allow the gear to come out? And have a degree of success of putting it back with a decent set of bearings and new spacer? I haven't put the input gear back together, it's just sitting in its place Or is it tow truck time?. Cheers guys.

Gear is moving? Not shaft twice right?

Im fairly sure it's the gear cluster not the shaft. Im going to have a proper look now i know what to look for. I hadnt by this stage realised that the Hi /lo selection was done on the diff shaft. Now i know this i can have a better look at why this gear is moving. Ill report back soon.

I can. What initially concerned me was the slight up down movement of the intermediate gears. But also there is half inch to an inch of movement front to back along the shaft of the entire intermediate gears assembly. Surely it isn't supposed to move along the shaft front to back?? I'm pretty convinced is not supposed to do that?!

Hello. Should the intermediate gear group be able to move along the shaft front of vehicle to back of vehicle? If not then that is the problem. There's like 25 mm of movement. I was thinking it should move to allow selection of high and low gear. Looking at the book it should set tight between the bearings on the shaft with the collapsing spacer setting the bearing pre load. Something appears not right so I'm going to sit back and wait for some advice.

Sorry Steve, no, but the problem goes away when the clutch is depressed so it can't be wheel bearings. Its transmission related im sure and worse in high than low. Or much more noticeable. If the intermediate gear is not supposed to be having up down movement along the length of its own shaft then i think we have something.

Ok. Guitar string was to fat. Luckily in the old fashioned type that doesn't shave very often but when i do is with an old fashioned razor so i had the blades available. What a bloody cack job that was. Ok so plate is off. What is immediately obvious is that the intermediate gear has what seems like up / down movement. More towards the front end than the back. seems like a lot of movement but i could be wrong. The bottom shaft seems pretty solid. Some uptake down there in the high gear. Need to leave it alone for a while now.

Ok I think I've a better idea. Very light gauge guitar string. I'll be careful. Proper stuck on! Red stuff. Would that be factory red stuff? I'll let you know what i discover.

Ok bolts out no problem. Cover plate is glued on tight. Any ideas, i don't want to damage seal faces with screwdrivers. Nothing on any sites or in the book about this.

I was trying to avoid having to have this guy fix the problem as it involves paying a tow truck to take it 160 kms. And then paying this guy up to 1000 euros . He just says i need to bring it in. I think the oils should cost around 20 euros all in and i can re-use them if new, no? No wonder this person next door (about 500 meters away) wanted rid of this thing... Ok feed the cows and cats and nother cup of tea and take off bottom cover maybe it will reveal Something.. Nothing to lose now. Im getting more comfortable. Any old loctite? Need to go to town to get oils and loctite. Etc. Life in spain is pretty ****ty if you're not here on holiday. everywhere closes between 2 and 5.30pm country is run by nasty thieving pricks. The women given support to run rough shod over everyone around 4000 suicides a year of which 3200 are men . I dare say the 800 women were pushed rather than jumped.

Is the loctite necessary? ****, how did i get myself into this situation?

Ok, yes I've just looked it up in the manual. So any equivalent. Am i going the right way by putting the gear back in? Or should i pull the lower cover plate first? I'm a bit unsure now of where I'm going with this. could it be that the gearbox output bearing is bad but not detectable under load? Or just reassemble and take to the specialist garage?

Thanks Snagger. I've an R380 atf there too?

Can't really hear anything running the gearbox on its own. So i don't think it's output shaft. i guess i need to put that gear back in. Should the oils be recycled seperately or together?. Which oils should i be putting in? Any recommendations would be helpful. Thank you.

Well the cages just felt slack. I think there was too.much movement when assembled. Could that cause these symptoms? Does the position of the output spline and input gear matter? I mean as long as is on the spline. I want to start her up and run the box in its own, is that allowed without oil?

I mean the cages when the shaft is out of the housing. I do believe that when it was just after taking the cover plate off some play in the input shaft bearing, but perhaps that's because it's tension is now released as the outer rave is retained by the cover plate bolts.

The input gear bearings feel a bit loose, is there a way to check them?