David_LLAMA4x4

David (LLama4x4), its good to see a supplier considering what a customer needs and not just taking the cash. Those +5.5" shocks, do you have the dimensions base of pin to base of pin compressed and extended? From base of stud to base of stud they measure: 27" extended / 15.5" compressed Hope that info is of some help to you... I am just waiting for news from the factory that they have been dispatched to the docks and I will be able to give a much better idea of when I will have them.. David

Just noticed who this post is from - my school was just as good as yours!!!!!! How the devil are you?? David

Thankyou everyone for pointing out that I can;t typpee......... And thankyou for correcting the URRL.... The bracketry of the kit is indded of Gwyn's manufacture - he is about 5 miles from me and the brackets one way / brake hose the other deal works very well! Gwyn's stuff is all very strong, no frills equipment that works properly rather than just looking nice which made it the obvious choice for me to add to my product range. Where my kit differs is that I use Rough Country shocks - I would as I am the UK importer.... Not that there is any LR stuff on it, as their LR stuff is being made solely for me but the Rough Country site is well worth a look Rough Country website The 1st container of LR production ( rather than prototype ) shocks should be with me in 3-4 weeks so get ready to see them at the Shows this summer....

Quite agree Porny - there is no need for ridiculous lifts on LR's. 1 to 1.5" will allow you to get tyres under and will not knacker all your steering geometry etc. .... It is the length of the damper, not the spring that will allow for more travel so as you have achieved with yours new dampers on different mounts can afford you masses of axle travel.... My own long travel' Challenge' suspension kit for 90s does just this and uses 11.5" travel shocks ( about +5.5" ) without the need for packing the bumpstops at all....Llama 4x4 website David

I quite agree that 255/85 MY's are the way forward and accept that a slight lift 1-2" is required to use them sensibly.... I have measured various LR vehicles and almost all of them work out the same - you can eat a good 1" into the standard bumpstops without too much fear of over closing the shocks even with hard use so if you run +2" shocks ( extended so about 1" longer closed ) then you will not need to drop your bumpstops. Altenatively use std shock lengths and drop the brackets by 2" and you will still be safe. However when this extra 1" closed length ( which uses up all the spare room ) is combined with dropped mountings then however much you lower your mounts by will need to be packed under the bumpstops or the possibility of damaging your shocks is there. David

Just had a chat with a friend / fellow 4x4 trade supplier who told me of an equiry he had just taken for front relocation cones: As above the enwuiry was taken by a chap wanting to purcahse some front relocation cones for hos 90. Ehen asked what shocks / springs etc. the vehicle was using to try and ascertain what length of cone might be needed the cutomer replied 'Standard LR ones'. Seeing an opportunity to perhaps supply him with the new shocks and springs as well my friend asked him what sh / sp he was going to fit. To which the chap replied ' I.m keeping the stf ones as I don't want a lift , I just want the relocation cones so I can get more axle droop and'. This is when alarm bells atarted ringing - the man obviously had no idea how a suspension system worked but could easily have been persuaded to waste £50 on stuff he simply did not need! What is more the man who did not know how his suspension worked was prepared to take it all aprt and rebuild it himself!! Our conversation then turned to other suspesnion issues along the lines of - How many people who fit +2" shocks and 2" drop turrets / brackets space their bumpstops to protect the now way too long compressed length of their shocks?? Is there really any benefit in gaing 4" of droop when you lose 4" of upward travel? David

Whilst I am very pleased that the hose survived I have to add that I do not suggest 'stretching' hoses in this way!!!!! If your hoses came via Gon2Far then they are almost certainly from me - Nigel at G2F is a fine chap and a good trade customer. David My Webpage

I think they are off the 400 wide body LDV.... Find your local LDV dealer and just ask their parts dept. You can either fir the bigger head onto the existing LR arm or you can fit the longer LDV arm as well - great if you tow a wide trailer...... David

I haven't received an email but I am here - try again on david@llama4x4.co.uk or phone me on 01938.850382 / 07969.458958 Hope to here from you soon David

Please shout at me if I'm breaking any astablished rules her about promoting my own business but have a look at my website: www.llama4x4.co.uk Suspension is something that I spend most of my time ( work and pleasure ) messing about with and hopefully I have now got it sussed...... David

Look at the 'heat proofing' page of www.motorsport-plumbing.co.uk I'm sure they could help........ David