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You still working on this one?
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That 46 degrees is only ever seen with the throttle fully closed at high revs - in these situations you can have a lot more advance that at WOT. At WOT it is only getting something like 30 I think? (photobucket is blocked on the vessel so cant get to or see any of my own pics). So far it has done about 3000miles with this setup and no issues at all, well, none engine related anyway
No sign of pinging either, but to be honest without some form of det cans I wouldn't expect to hear anything at that kind of rpm in the P6 as it is very well sound proofed compared to a landrover... You should be able to hear a lot better.
I arrived at that figure when I built the map, which basically meant taking the quoted mech adv figures for my dizzy, and using them to populate the 100kPa row. I then converted the inHg quoted for vac advance to kPa and worked those in vertically.
If you are worried about adding that much just back it off a little. If you use the factory figures for advance at WOT you cant go far wrong, as they should be a little conservative.
Yea that makes sense, Its all new to me so having to get my head around it.
I'm tempted to setup a knock sensor, even if its just to a pair of headphones to get it setup.
Something like this http://www.dwjenkins.plus.com/knock-detection.htm
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Be interesting to know the weight, the Rv8 is around 200-220kg
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Could do worse than look at Freelander engines; the 1.8 petrol is brilliantly perky (lotus elise!) and, when assembled correctly, reliable. The L-series diesel is uncomplicated and has a great rep, and the TD4 is brilliant too, very flexible & torquey with the VNT. Plus they're all smaller and lighter than a V8 or TDi, but you can still buy parts from LR suppliers (and prices are still coming down).
lighter than a rv8? I was under the impression that it was a very light engine being all ali.
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^^ Spot on !
Cheers
Here's something I sent to another forum member a little while ago - might help get you started...
I can't find the charger for the laptop my latest map is on, but If you go to here:
http://www.classicro...16625&start=120
And scroll some way down you will get to a screenshot of the map I am running in my Rover P6. This is a 3.5, running 9.25:1 compression and using later 10 bolt heads. It goes very well indeed!
If your 3.5 is a similar compression then you should be ok, if its lower (8.13) then you may need to up the advance a little bit- how much I have no idea! Just keep your ears peeled for pinging, and if in doubt, stop.
I built the map using the info from here:
http://www.rover-cla...e/enginev8.html
and wrote about it a bit on here (I had questions about ported vs manifold vacuum):
http://www.v8forum.c...e5a6c11ac7b92a9
Hope this helps,
Have fun!
Jamie
Having a look though the rest of the links and looking at your map, how on earth are you running 46 deg with no knock?
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Jamie your a gent, thanks for all the great links.
Mine is indeed a 8:5.1.So from my understanding you can run more advance with a higher RON fuel as it is more resistant to knock (pre-detination)
According to Nige's post the max advance on a 3.5 is 36.
http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=15317&view=findpost&p=239333
3.5s - Max of 36 degrees at around 3100-3200 .........(if you have a 'sleeved 3.5' with reduced CC (ie 3400) then 38 Degrees at 3200)
3.9s Maximum of 34 degrees 3750-3850
4.2s to 4.5s max 31 degrees @ 3900-4000
4.6s and bigger Max 28 @ 3750-4000According to this table below and presuming its scales up the rev range with a low comp I can run more advance on the same RON fuel on a low comp motor.
<table 712"="" border="1" style="margin: auto; padding: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">
At 600 rpm Compression Timing 10.5:1 6 degrees BTDC for use with fuel of 100 minimum research octane number. TDC for use with fuel of 96 to 99 minimum reasearch octance number 9.25:1 6 degrees BTDC for use with fuel of 96 minimum research octane number 8.5:1 6 degrees BTDC for use with fuel of 90 minimum research octane numberfor a 3.5 at max advance (36deg)
9.25:1 on 96 is 0.375 deg per RON
8.5:1 on 90 is 0.4 deg RON
so 95 (regular unleaded) is 38 deg
97 is 38.8 deg
So does this sound right?Cheers Mark
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Why a v8 may I ask?
A petrol can be made to work as well as a derv for water, and usually more power. -
I'm looking to do this. I know a guy who has a 4.0 and 4.6 with a duff liner.
Is it worth running high comp over std?
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If it fits the best option would be either run the engine and box with a divorced lt230 or make an adaptor for the bell housing to r380 and get an input shaft made up. IMO
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Hi guys,
Just installing a MJ setup on my 3.5 efi.
Been reading about the advance map table and that a smaller CU can run more advance, my question is what the max on a 3.5?
And also does it matter what the compression ratio is?Cheers Mark
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This Buick v6, what year is it? I may be wrong but didn't they make a V6 variation of the Buick 213 (Rover V8) is that what this is?
Out of curiosity how come your going for the lt95 and not a stumpy r380? -
ok, another shakedown run yesterday and some new issues.
one is i tore all 4 engine/gearbox mounts. thats gonna be a fun fix.......
another is the need for a new top rad hose. saw that coming but got cheap and didnt replace it. my bad.
last is i managed to discharge both batteries so im looking at a alternator upgrade. i dont want to go duel (dont know if it can be done) but a upgrade to approx 150A would be nice. anyone know if you can get one to fit a 2.0mpi?
I know its not cheap but RedWinch do some BEEFY alternators to fit most, check them out.
Are you on V or flat belt?
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Done the first long run , just over 1000miles up into Scotland and back via Lake district, about 50% motorway at 60mph cruise, and the rest on smallish roads thru hilly areas, involving a fair bit of braking /accelerating , with about 3/4 load , and a bigger than standard barn door frontal area (roof rack etc). Based on fillup and refill to same point , 29mpg , which is about double what the V8 was doing , so well worth the trouble!
Sounds good, I did a run up to the lake district from Buckinghamshire last month in my 3.5V8 and got 14MPG
Not sure if i'de swap still.
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Looking good there.. keep up the work, you'l iron out the issues eventually..
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You might want to consider some rear visibility - it will be a pig at events with only door mirrors to see out of!
Yea I seccond that, I'm constantly asking the passenger to check that side while reversing!
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Looks good so far, your going to want to change the rear springs, mine with +2's was stupidly high. I ended up going with LR Yellow/Red springs, they work well and are the longest springs with that sort of spring rate.
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So what the 4.2/4.6 RV8? they had the 3.5 in some series, so shouldn't be to bad.
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Unless you need to be able to run in very cold temps, ditch the bit under the plenum with the 2 small pipes.
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I had the same with the photobucket folders. change the address for them ..
htp://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/miketomcat/IMAG0898.jpgto
htp://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/miketomcat/***FOLDER***/IMAG0898.jpg
just cut and paste the /***FOLDER*** bit with the folder name in the right place for each. easier than re pasting all the links -
you should be ok, I'm looking to start mine soon and mine has cats.. looks tight, but doable!
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I also would really not be reusing the land rover front suspension Al, just make a H/D gearbox crossmember and a 1 link that bolts into your rangy chassis you will thank me for it
I have to agree, a one-link would be a good choice, you could make it so it bolts on the original radius mounts so you could replace the axle if needed.
I'm going to assume the RRC is a V8? If so there might be a bit of clearance issues IF your down pipes go over the cross member with cats, can be a little tight!
Is the rear a parallel 4 link with panard, rather than A frame? I'd keep that if your after some good flex, as the ball joint in the A frame can be restrictive!
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Very impressed at that exhaust, where did you get all the pipe bits from and what was the cost?
Its looking like I might be needing to redesign my Y on the RV8 to aid clearance for the 1link. -
Right ok then, still think HD is better fitting as excess is in reference to amount, not very fitting for anything other than the jets.
Just my 10 cents
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whats the XS stand for?
Megajolt with 14CUX Hotwire
in MS-Megasquirt/Jolt
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Thought this might be useful to some, so..
I finished my install of the MJ today and got it running with the distributor and coil providing the pulses for the 14CUX ECU.
I don't wish to run the dizy/coil in place so me and the old man (electronics wizard) set to finding out how to make the MJ provide the pulses.
We scoped the pulses from the dizy/coil and it seems to be getting about 75 volt spikes,
We put in some Zenor diodes limiting the voltage and come to the conclusion you need around 60+ volt spike every 2 seconds (at least) to get the ECU it to accept it.
1 coil earth (to EDIS8) on the MJ only seems to provide about 40 volts at a rate of about 2 a second, which is about half of the original dizy/coil voltage but enough frequency.
Going to try and make a voltage doubler circuit or similar to jump the 40 volts to around 80.
The other thing that I could do is use the EDIS8 tacho output and jump the voltage to around 75.
Cheers Mark